[Hunter] Leveling – Talents and Tips – (1-80) – Updated for 3.2

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New guide..Someone should make a new hunter guide, with patch 4.0.1 , most class guides got destroyed.

It may be late but it’sIt may be late but it’s still perfectly valid 🙂

Tenacity pets do have some useful abilities for PvP, but they aren’t the best choice by a long way. Also remember big crits aren’t the only thing you should be looking for – they are very nice to have yes, but they are probably one of the least important tools you have.

Ferocity pets are probably a slightly better choice, due to teh fact that the attack speed is faster, meaning they attack more often. The reason you would want this is against casters… If a Mage for example is casting a Pyroblast and someone or something attacks them, then the spell get’s a ‘knockback’ effect – they lose some of their cast and have to spend longer casting the spell. If they get another attack against them, it make sthe cast longer again. If you can slow down any caster with this method, then you greatly up your chances of winning against them. A DPS won’t be able to cast their big spells effectively, and a healer will be stuck trying to heal themselves or their ally but also won’t be as effective at it. This can be very important in PvP play.

Cunning pets though are by far the best choice for PvP. They have the tools and utility offered by some Tenacity pets, and have them upgraded so they perform them better and have more of them available. They mostly also have the higher attack speed of the Ferocity pets so you can annoy the casters even more 🙂 Their damage that you see may be lower in numbers and you won’t get the big crits, but high damage alone will not help you win.

-Skum

Pvp petsI know this comment comes like what, a year late? But i’ve just started to read your little guide here. The thing when it comes to hunter PvP, you say ” You should not bring your tenacity pet into BG’s”. I find that wrong. I always have my gorilla out, and yesterday while i was doing Arathi basin he critted for 404 dmg, and im a 48 hunter(he was 47). Yeah , maybe ferocity pets dmg more faster, doesn’t mean there better. As many ppl is going to PvP at lower lvls than 80, even 60, their pet won’t have avoidance (AoE dmg reduction with 90%). Many ppl use AoE spells in bg’s if they meet alot of defenders at a base, thus making the pet die. Same thing if like a warrior does cleave. So my question is ; Why is it better to have a ferocity pet that sometimes may die when you can have a tenacity pet that wont? the dmg is almost the same.

A little macro.This one off the macros that I use all the time on my hunter and on any hunter I make. When you get the Disengage spell:

#showtooltip Disengage
/stopcasting
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent(“UI_ERROR_MESSAGE”);
/cast Wing Clip
/cast Raptor Strike
/cast Disengage
/script UIErrorsFrame:RegisterEvent(“UI_ERROR_MESSAGE”);

Use is when you get that mob that just will not aggro to your pet this will stop what you where doing when it closes to close combat. It will cast Wing Clip to slow it down then it will cast Raptor Strike for some damage. Then you will Disengage. The script part is if per-say that Raptor Strike was on cool down it pop an Error Message this just stop that from happening because we all know that is annoying to see and it just gets in the way on the screen.

That would be a bear.That would be a bear.

Pet choice!!!!!Get a pet in Darkshore! (Kalimdor)
They got a spell called Swipe wich deal damage to 3 targets wich will help alot to hold aggro on 2+ mobs when u do AoE Rotation or just a bigger pull when u are 1-40

Rotationher are 2 macros that makes your Leveling Betweeen 14-40 MUCH easyer(Single target)(Requiers a pet , the spells : Mend pet , arcane shot , hunters mark , serpent sting .. works any rank)
First Make this macro:

#show Mend pet
/cast Mend pet
/petattack

Put that on Action bar 1
Now make this macro :

#show Arcane Shot
/castsequence Hunter’s Mark, Serpent Sting, Arcane Shot, Concussive Shot, Arcane Shot, Hunter’s Mark, Serpent sting, Arcane Shot, Concussive shot,

Put that on action bar 2
Then when u going to fight just click First Mend pet macro (Action bar 1) Then SPAM The other macro (Action bar 2) Dont care about the Cooldown it shows … Keep clicking like hell to the enemy is dead!

I was thinking about thisI was thinking about this while working on my Pet guide. When leveling in the Beast Mastery Tree, you should [u]definitely[/u] take the [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53270]Beast Mastery[/url] Talent for the 4 extra points. If at 80 you want to take [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=23989]Readiness[/url], then respec your Talents. Saving that point for 20 levels just isn’t worth it when 4 more points for your Pet can help out immediately.

I agreeSerpent Sting is a pretty poor leveling skill, even when using the Glyphs of Serpent Sting and Steady Shot. DOTs are plain and simple a waste of mana while leveling; they aren’t worth it unless they tick to their full duration, and if they do, you’re probably doing something wrong because mobs should die faster than that.

I also don’t like this guide’s emphasis on AoE after level 40. While AoE is great when the opportunity arises, the fact of the matter is that most of the time you can’t simply gather mobs and Volley them down (whether because of terrain, the presence of casters, distance between mobs, or whatever). If you’re following Jame’s guides — which I assume you are or why are you at this site? — your focus should be on single-target damage. That’s what you will be spending most of your time doing.

Srry for the late answer iSrry for the late answer i been preparing myself for the blizzcon sooo i stayed out off all :P. i added a note in the pvp tips that i think says everything!

Mana managementActually i don’t like your rotation advise because in my opinion you can ignore Serpent Sting almost completely while leveling. Since nonglyphed it provides less Dmg per Mana than Arcane Shot and Steady Shot also it does nearly never last for the full duration of 15 seconds as the mobs die beforehand making the Dmg per Mana Ratio even worse. Sure it adds some DPS but not in amounts to make up for the increased time you spend in Viper.
Also due to the fact that only very few mobs last for full 15s duration of Serpent Sting the Glyph is rather useless for leveling since you will rarely get the benefit of two additional ticks before Serpent Sting exspires.
I would use Glyph of Mending instead of Serpent Sting together with Bestial Wrath. (You have only two glyphslots for leveling as the third comes with level 80) Btw. the pet should hold aggro over you, unless you are packed with Heirloomitems and i am not not sure were you get that from, that you won’t get healing aggro from mend pet. Nevertheless i would save Mend Pet for occasion when you really need it, again for mana saving reasons.

Last but not least a makro i find helpful as a hunter:
#showtooltip ‘Mountname’
/use !Aspect of the Viper
/use ‘Mountname’

This makro will always turn on Aspect of the Viper when you mount up.

I would disagree that peopleI would disagree that people who use this guide would automatically know that they shouldn’t PvP until they are confident in their class. I think people come to the guide because they are new to the class, especially a leveling guide like this. So you might want to include a note.

Also, it’s okay that you are inexperienced in PvP, this is not a PvP guide like you said. But, that’s the perfect reason to take constructive input from others seriously and use it to improve your guide! I have done the same for my tree guide, because I am also inexperienced in PvP (though I’m actually getting into it lately!)

As i tell in the guide imAs i tell in the guide im not that great on pvp i just put some things I do while im on bgs..Also this is not a pvp guide this are just some tips i highly recomend. Also most of the people that use a guide to know a hunter shouldnt go to bgs until he/she feels confident and know a bit the abilities if the class.
Anyway thanks for the coment but i did not say to spam bestial wrath just to remeber to use it…its very handy and 1 min cooldown its almost nothing…

mmI think this guide is fine, but eventually each hunter is going to have to realize that he needs to eventually be able to make talent decisions and PvP decisions on his own.

Since this was your guideSince this was your guide originally, Zerinj, I think it would be great if you two could work together to improve the guide. I don’t think I can make both of you author’s, unfortunately, but Shizu should definitely take your comment seriously.

Alternatively, if you like you could update your version of the guide (it has not been deleted), and we could ask Shizu to edit this one to make it all his own, if it turns out you two disagree significantly on hunter advice.

Let me know, both of you, what you would like to do and I’ll do what I can to assist.

PvP TipsI hate to be frank but a lot of the PvP tips are pretty mediocre. You don’t want to be spamming Bestial Wrath every time it’s off cooldown, you’d be better of saving it for fighting a Rogue or say someone with a fear. Also aiming for clothies is fine for Honorable Kills, but you completely left out the situation if you’re getting violated by a plate wearer. There is also very little information about using Disengage and Freezing/Frost Trap/Arrow effectively. Also I would not include the point about pets in PvP, since they are all unique and bring certain benefits to the PvP situation, and you would be better off choosing a pet on what play style you have.

Thanks for the corrections iThanks for the corrections i added a short list of 4 tenacity pets that are very easy to find in low levels and thanks for putting the credit in some place visible i included but i think tha it was in the wrong place!

Great GuideMy main is a 70 orc hunter and I was a big noob when it came to picking pets and knowing a good spell rotation when I started out.

If you want to kill fast heck yeah go for a tenacity pet. Thunderstomp is the best thing ever made for a hunter. I started off with a cat from 10-39 and then I used a gorilla from 40-69. So I went to Borean Tundra and tamed a Rhino at 70, which is SOOOO much better than my gorilla was. It has Stampede, which causes the enemy to bleed for 60 seconds for X amount of damage, I forget how much.

(Oh and Beastial Wrath makes a Rhino look 4x the size of an orc!)

I went my own way with my Beast Mastery talent tree, and I am just now going into Marksmanship at 70 so I suck, but my pets are not to be handled with 😉

Btw a good taming tip, lay down a freezing trap, I can’t tell ya how many times a gorilla slapped me from taming it at the last second, even with it trapped. If your friends with a mage, ask him to help you out too. My friend turned my Rhino into a chicken while I was taming him. :cheers:

Is there some sort of a hunter PVP guide? I love playing battlegrounds and I would like to see some tips for a beast mastery hunter on staying alive longer.

Great guide dude

Post 3.2 Hunter leveling tipsA good guide. For what it’s worth, by the way, your pet should have access to Thunderstomp when you (or rather, your pet) hit level 40.

Good update. I know EnglishGood update. I know English is a second language for you, and there were quite a few spelling and grammar errors. Since it would probably be difficult for you to fix those on your own, I fixed as many of them as I noticed for now. Others may point out specific things which you can fix later.

Overall I think the update has improved the guide, particularly the rotation section – it seems more fleshed out and clear now. I don’t know hunters well so I don’t know if the advice is good or not, someone else will have to comment on that.

As for improvements, I definitely think you should list the type of pets that are in the tenacity tree. As a hunter noob, I would have no idea which ones are tenacity, and it wouldn’t take up too much space to list them. I don’t mean individual mob names, just types (like “Gorilla” and “Turtle” and whatever else there is).

Anyway, good job! I’m moving this guide to the main hunter section so it can be easily found. I’m also going to add a note giving some credit to the original author, Zerinj.