DAmn you’ve got greatDamn you’ve got great comments! When you’ve got no arguements left, you just say the other one fails.
You sound kinda desperate to me bro, no offense whatsoever.

I do suggest making it aI do suggest making it a wiki, since this is the type of thing many people would want to contribute their own little part to.

EDIT: I fail, I see now you mentioned that already in your first post!

To Troll’s concern about wiki pages: I think that’s unfounded in this case. No I wouldn’t trust it for serious things like school, but honestly, a wiki is the best solution here. There are several people interested in the project, and a wiki is the best way to collaborate. WoW-Pro administrators and mods still have full control over the page and can rollback content whenever needed, and only registered members (possibly to be changed/already changed to only Trusted members) can edit it.

Basically I think a wiki is the only possible solution in this case.

Ill start it then!Well, good to see people are likely to read it. Im gonna start it soon then 😉

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Now THAT would be a guide!Now [b]THAT[/b] would be a guide! And something I’d deffo read.

Dungeon lore should probablyDungeon lore should probably be confined to a paragraph within dungeon guides, with a link to WoWWiki. In my opinion, of course, and if you feel compelled to write more, I’m not about to stop you 😉

This is exactly what I wasThis is exactly what I was thinking. I really love WoWWiki and it’s lore articles, but sometimes I have trouble knowing where all the interesting articles *are*. Some broad timeline or overview with links to the WoWWiki in-depth articles would be fantastic, I think.

No need to be snarky, myNo need to be snarky, my thoughts exactly followed Troll’s here, but see the below post.

Your so right! Whats theYour so right! Whats the point of those reputation guides? We got wowwiki, Whats the point of those boss strategy guides? We’ve got bosskillers. What’s the point of those proffesion guides? We’ve got that sticky on the offcial forums. Whats the point of all those leveling, gold making and class guides? We’ve got piratebay.

WowwikiI think your point is right…
BUT: I was having a hard time finding all the right spots to read, and when i found it i thought musch information could be told easier.
Thats why i was thinking of putting the whole info thing together at ONE spot.

Maybe it would be better with a guide with direct links leading to all the different info pages?

Gimme a call when I needGimme a call when I need edit my guide (DPS drops in heroics for DK’s ).

This is a reply to all ofDouble post.

This is a reply to all ofThis is a reply to all of the above:

Wowwiki exists for a reason; we don’t need lore ‘guides’ or articles. I love WoW lore, but do we need it? And, in my opinion, a wiki page is most un-reliable source of information you can get…

~Trollvink

I shall work on a pre-raidI shall work on a pre-raid gear list for DPS DKs, seeing as mine is nearly 80 finally. Also, I’d be able to do Azjol-Nerub for the instance guides.

Indeed!The ideal example would be the upcoming Ulduar. Ulduar, Uldum, and Uldaman was the great cities of the titans left behind when the world of Azeroth was created.
Uldaman and Ulduar already being here can lead so many thoughts about Uldum in a further patch/expansion.

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WE could also writeWE could also write something about the stories of the different areas and dungeons of the game. Those places have often very lore-rich elements no-one knows about.

Would be great if youWould be great if you included the 1d 2d and 3d versions aswell

Further speculations:Ive been thinking a little further about what could be some of the content:

A timeline (easy done)

Easy readable, and shorter version of the history of warcraft (From Titans and dragons to the beginning of WotLK). This is probably one main factor in the guide.

Lore about the different races (Even non-playable like murlocks and satyrs)

Notable and VIP’s in the history of warcraft

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delay sorrythe raid healing guide by me will be delayed for about 1 week as im prepering for fishing contsest 😛

sorry

Obsidian SanctumI can write a guide for the Obsidian Sanctum.

Hey, I’m kinda theHey, I’m kinda the lorewhore, and I think I know pretty much of the story of WarCraft. I would gladly help you in making this guide. Please post a comment when you’ve worked out the idea a bit more.

Long Comment: WoW Lore/History GuideIn the first months after the release of WOTLK people of course begun to think about furture expansions and content. The talking about The Emerald Dream, Nagas of Azhara, Gilneas, Kultiras etc. made me wonder. In fact I didnt know a thing of what they were talking about. These areas seemed very interesting so i decided to take a look on the WoW history and lore. (Ive played since Warcraft III but never read up on any of it. I havent completed Warcraft III either)
Now im almost done reading the information on Wowwiki.com, and the whole section on http://www.Wow-europe.com.

I dont think im the only one who are having/had a hard time reading through it (If people even know about the information), and thats why im thinking of making a easier readable guide about the different areas, races and the history of the whole warcraft world. Also links to the pages with the original would be included of course!

Last thought would be making it a wiki page, so that people can add their own information.

Im not quite a huge Lore nerds, but not one of those people running around wonder what the world their in is called.
Thats why i want YOUR thoughts about making such a big guide as this, and YOUR help to make this guide become true!

Comment this please!

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how about this guide…i havent seen any guides for a warlock regarding a destruction spec… also is there a guide for gear little less health more mana 4 a lock?

Added!Added!

As we’re slashing throughAs we’re slashing through the list of Reputation Guides currently, I might aswell contribute a little more by writing a guide for the Horde Expedition and the Alliance Vanguard. These two factions are just the counterpart of the other and will consist much of the same things, so I might aswell do both while I’m at it.

Need to be put up as “writing” on these factions,

Jiyambi, do your thing 😛

I see you’ve alreadyI see you’ve already completed it, I noted it as complete.

I think that would beI think that would be excellent. I’ll add it.

FrenzyheartI will write a guide on how to gain rep with the Frenzyheart.

I could write a guide aboutI could write a guide about how to use keybindings effectively, and how to stop being a Keyboardturner. If such a guide is appreciated.

Done, thanks for theDone, thanks for the reminder 🙂

Argent Crusade Guide DoneI guess you can mark the Argent Crusade guide as done and link the completed result to [url=https://www.wow-pro.com/general_guides/argent_crusade_reputation_guide]Unbreakable’s guide[/url].

Of course The above wouldOf course 😉 The above would be the major guides, with perhaps a few more specialized guides like the one you describe. The major point is that we have a lot of guides that say the same thing and are low quality. Anything of high quality (which I know yours would be!) should be saved.

Dont forget:

Making GoldDont forget:

[list]
[*] [b]Making Gold through combinations of the above[/b] – like my guide, which requires you to have a certain level, certain professions, and pick-up certain quests. While following a certain route! 😛

~ Trollvink

Jiyambi, that has beenJiyambi, that has been perfectly said! I think we need to put this to Jame A.S.A.P. and get it into effect. Give me a shout anytime and I would be more than happy to help out.

-Skumball

DoneDone 🙂

DoneDone 🙂

This has already been done,This has already been done, to some extent, in the other categories – I know at least in the druid category Jame set some old guides back to draft so the good ones stand out. I agree that the gold guide needs the most attention right now, and what you say is absolutely true (been thinking about it myself lately).

I think someone (you? Trollvink? someone else?) had mentioned doing a guide revamp already, sorry I don’t remember who it was. I think this is an excellent idea! Perhaps we need something like:

[list][*][b]General Gold Making Tips[/b] – A compilation of all the major tips, with links to the more specific guides.
[*][b]Making Gold While Leveling[/b] – One top notch quality guide to making gold while leveling. Let’s face it folks, most gold making will be done at max level. We don’t need a ton of specific guides on how to make gold while leveling – one guide is probably sufficient.
[*][b]Making Gold through X profession[/b] – We could have one of these for each profession, as needed – focused on crafting professions.
[*][b]Making Gold through Dailies[/b] – Or some version of this
[*][b]Making Gold Through Gathering[/b] – The best way to make gold through gathering, either skinning, mining, or herbalism, or combined circuits.
[*][b]Making Gold through Farming[/b] – eternals and the like. One or more guides as needed for specific things.
[*][b]Making Gold through the AH[/b] – Hurry up with that guide Shikamaru! 😉
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Just my vision of an ideal set of gold guides.

/Agree.

That said, time to/Agree.

That said, time to update my little goldmaking guide 😛

Something to note…I would like to make a point here to all guide writers…

Firstly, I have seen a massive influx of guides to this site lately and whilst this is very good and it shows the interest and community is growing stronger by the day, I would just like to make everyone aware that if you are writing a guide about a specific tpoic, make sure it is [b]TOP[/b] quality. I do not wish to offend or upset anyone here with this post.

The main topic I’m talking about here is the Gold Making guides. We seem to have had alot submitted over the past month or so. Great! Except the quality of the majority of them has been mediocre at best. Don’t get me wrong some good guides have also been submitted and to the authors of those I extend my thanks. Looking through the Gold Making guides on the site though, I have found that the vast majority of them are basically an entire guide saying [i]”Start Mining on a new character and sell Copper”[/i] or [i]”Loot greens and disenchant”[/i], or maybe even [i]”Do Dailies”[/i]. Now whilst these may be good tips, they are just tips nontheless and to me don’t warrent a guide to be written on it.

Another thing I’d like to point out also is that people post guides that they say are complete and whatnot about this, yet all they contain is the above tips, which to me is comepletely pointless. Especially as if they looked on this page they would see what was being written currently and what is needed.

This completely puts me off for example, and I’m sure it does others too. I mean I personally think now why submit a great guide when there are a ton of guides already here so it will get lost within them, even though the vast majority are mediocre.

I personally thank and commend the efforts of any guide writer here, I would just like to make it clear that a guide which is just one tip isn’t a guide at all, and I’d like for people to have a look around and see what needs to be done and what is being done, and then question themselves, Can I really do this? before posting a 5,000 word essay on mining Copper.

Appologies for the rant but I really feel disheartened sometimes. Especially as some of these Copper guides have no use other than clogging up space like the other 20 or so Copper guides and yet they are extremely highly rated. This disillusions people and disheartens other guide writes.

I propose a solution to this. A complete revamp of all guides on the site with the sub-par ones being removed. In there place, would go a compilation of all of the tips and strategies from those guides and we would have a handful of great guides for readers to enjoy, not the mountain of mediocre guides that swamp everywhere and so obscurring those guides of actual good quality. I would personally be glad to undertake the Gold Making portion of this in particular, and any other section also.

/rant off

-Skumball

Editor HelpI’ll help with the editing. If they do a draft, is there anyway I can get access to it before it’s published? Not sure how that works.

James

I can do a reputation guideI can do a reputation guide for Argent Crusade, as I’m thinking of raising my own rep with them anyway.

Right, someone please put me as “writing” under “progress” for Argent Crusade.

Sorry to burst theSorry to burst the bubbles… but when a recruited friend has no BoA shoulders, and you do, the difference grows to big after a while, and RaF doesn’t work anymore… Rested XP doesn’t work with Raf :

But hey, they all work individually 😀

hiCan i have my name down for the “newbies guide to raid healing” guide please?

Finished one!Phew! I finished the Kirin Tor guide. I probably took the longest on making the title picture pretty, but I’m pretty happy about the result. Yay for GIMP!

Updated!Updated! 🙂

And heirloom shoulders!

TheAnd heirloom shoulders!

The occassional AoE grind would be fun for my Pally, a nice break from quests I’ve done five billion times and a chance to see how many mobs I could kill at once!

Grinding competing with questing?It could if you reaped the benefits of good technique, recruit-a-friend and rested bonus.

Rep GuidesI can tell you that the Kirin Tor and Knights of the Ebon Blade guides are delayed ’til April 12 or earlier due to busy stuff going on with me. 😛

edit: Nice new format!

Don’t forget different sortsDon’t forget different sorts of mobs – A protection paladin can’t pull ranged mobs, for example 😉 Would be a nice-to-have in the guide.

Quote:

“I would love to seeQuote:

“I would love to see some grinding spots for a protection paladin”

And that’s that. It’s nice to have the option to just blast out on mobs every now and then on your mage or paladin alt 😛

I’ll go ahead and make the guide when I’m in the mood.