Jame’s Leveling Guide: Addon Version – Cataclysm Ready

I cannot find your guideI cannot find your guide anywhere in the list. Could you tell me what the name of it is? Or is it still in there?

Thanks

Can’t see your guide?I checked the guides on this and couldn’t find yours. Is it still there? And if so, what is the name of it? Is it in the Wow-pro section, or do you have yours in with the others?

Thanks

Thanks for the answer!I might then wait until the Maw’s guide conversion will be done before starting a human character and try it out. The best thing would be the possibility to try the tourguide style addon with the wow pro guild 🙂

No, not yet, I’m stillNo, not yet, I’m still working on Maw’s 12-20. So for now you’ll have to stick with Boston’s 12-20. Not that it’s a bad thing, but it’s not as high quality as this one, and also it requires a few adjustments at the start, because Maw’s guide isn’t supposed to flow well into Boston’s.

Just read Jame’s blog and IJust read Jame’s blog and I went here to comment. It seems very good (at least on the alliance side ,for now) and very efficent.

I have to ask if it is possible to choose between Maw’s 12-20 leveling guide and Boston’s 12-20 leveling guide.

Thanks for your attention 🙂

Yes, it’s normal. A few zoneYes, it’s normal. A few zone tags are missing here and there. We’ll fix it soon, look out for updates in the coming days and weeks 😉

This stuff is very nice! IThis stuff is very nice! I just moved into outland with my DK and I must say this is really handy, I have 2 monitors of which I used 1 to always look at jame’s guide web page but now I don’t have to anymore 😀

I am encountering one problemem frequently though, on hellfire peninsula I often get !swatter to report to me that sometimes tourguide failed to set a note because the zone is unknown (HFP in this case)
I use Cartographer waypoint coz I had some trouble with tomtom but my friend who uses tomtom says he also had those errors but somehow it just set them in the current zone but I cant seem to find this option anywhere. Is there a fix to this?
Help greatly appreciated.

I just released a newI just released a new version and added my first contribution. The quality is very high, I recommend everyone to try it. (Maw’s Human 1-12 is the one I did)

More info here on my latest [url=http://jamewowpro.blogspot.com/2009/01/wow-pro-leveling-addon-aiming-for.html]blog entry[/url].

ThanksThanks for the nice comments on the belf starter guide for the WoW-Pro Addon. You can probably guess how it feels to hear something is “pretty awesome”, when you’ve taken the time to make sure everything possible is autocomplete, not to mention the time spent on improving the addon itself for all those extra features that allow the guide to be autocomplete for almost every step.

But thanks really go to [url=https://www.wow-pro.com/users/jahwo]Jahwo[/url], who gracefully has let me meddle with his code with full rights to change it in the repository. Without that, the addon wouldn’t be as great at automatically completing steps, and neither would a guide writer be able to add in class or race-specific quests, etc. It’s been a fun, but busy, few days since I grabbed the guides to do and sent Jahwo the first fix for the addon by private message. 🙂

Hmm that’s because I haven’tHmm that’s because I haven’t uploaded the file yet. The current human guide you see in the tourguide list is not maw’s guide, it’s Joan’s guide, it’s kinda old too and the tourguide version wasn’t made by me.

I’ll upload the good one tonight, just be patient, I’ve had a bunch of issues today with the site I had to fix :p

Questhelper useless?I just wanna point out one little extra feature why Im still using QuestHelper atm since Im running guides. It is that thing when u select random creature it shows if u need this one for any of your quests, so you dont actually have to remember names from Guidenotes, but u can easily see by targeting mob while running around.

Only thing I needed to change in Questhelper setting was option called “Disable Weapon Arrow” so it doesnt automatically re-set your TomTom arrow with some random quest you are not actually going to do.

So thats why Im still using QH, but maybe there is some other “ligher” addon to show this info in tooltip? I dont know.

Thank youThank you for your reply, it really works as it was intended now, I suppose. Way better! 🙂 Anyway, just if you curious – there was some info about Lightheaded in addons but I prolly havent noticed its required and most importantly missed the part with – it maps coords from Tourguide. So I just thought it “only” reads data about quests from wowhead.com and found it “not needed that bad”. Anyway, thank you, it works perfectly now.

I left that quest out onI left that quest out on purpose, in the fact that it is not relevant to leveling fast in any way 😛

try your Human guide tomorrowHey Tag,

I tried the Human guide with a pally and noticed a lack of auto complete in some locations. I’m not sure this was due to an older version of the AddOn (could be), but I forgot to write down where and when.

In case you find time, perhaps you could write down these issues if they in fact exist and have the Human guide updated.

One thing I did miss in the guide : [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=3861]CLUCK![/url] 😉

Just spent an hour withJust spent an hour with Snowflakes belf starter guide (WoW Pro add-on) and I have to say its pretty awesome. even worked with TomTom and everything. If they’re all of this quality then I’d take the WoW-Pro add-on over TourGuide because in later guides there is plenty of space to add extra snippets of info 😮

Funky stuff. I’ll try your Human guide tomorrow if its up (tag needs his beauty sleep now :p)!

Tag. 🙂

Yep, the lack of arrows andYep, the lack of arrows and auto completion is because of the way the .lua is written, not because of the addon 😉

I just finished writing a Human 1-12 myself, tourguide version. I’ll upload it later tonight and I encourage everyone to try it for fun. You’ll see what kind of standards I want to reach with each chapter:

-TomTom arrow for EVERY step requiring you to move, even short distances.
-Auto-completion for 99% of the steps. When it’s not an auto-complete step, I actually mention it and tell you to close the step once you finish reading.
-class quests included
-optional quests included
-Even giving directions to the nearest repair NPC when the guide mentions to “Sell junk and repair”

I figured that might be theI figured that might be the case. I shall try the belf starting guide and see how I go then (I’ve only tried the human one and a bit of the orc/troll one so far)! Cos I love these guides and the idea of an add-on with WoW-Pro guides has me all excited 😀

I should really get into helping get some of these guides into add-on format but I have coffee to drink and it doesn’t make itself you know! 😀

Anyway I’ll try that belf guide!

Tag. 🙂

WoW-Pro addon[quote=Tag]Was left a bit disappointed when I tried the WoW-Pro addon, didn’t seem to be any waypoints and I have to click next step most of the time. It may seem petty but when talking about ease of use even having a ‘next step’ keybinding is more work than is necessary for the user. More automation would be nice and like I say this may be a coding issue rather than a lack of add-on functionality. Its a shame Zygor guides are crap as guides really cos I love the way the addon works. Our add-on makers should actually check it out if they can.[/quote]
The issue is with the guides – the addon is all the time more and more capable of detecting which steps to show and to automatically move on to the next step.

For example, just during the last few days, there’s come features for knowing when you’ve bound somewhere, when you’ve discovered a new flight path, etc. It’s just that the guides written for it aren’t quite up to date (except for Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starting Guide, which is using just about all the latest features of the WoWPro addon).

I agree providing there isI agree providing there is sufficient waypointing/mapping done (using tomtom or whatever). Tourguide was light on waypoints when I tried it but that is down to whoever is coding tha particular guide. If anyone has seen how Zygor’s Guide works then thats the ideal situation for me. Practically every step has a corresponding waypoint using tomtom so I can check roughly where it is on my world map as well as having teh funky arrow. I’d hope for close to Zygor functionality from our guides to be honest and that is really down to how the guides are coded as the addons are packed with features and the guides are excellent.

Was left a bit disappointed when I tried the WoW-Pro addon, didn’t seem to be any waypoints and I have to click next step most of the time. It may seem petty but when talking about ease of use even having a ‘next step’ keybinding is more work than is necessary for the user. More automation would be nice and like I say this may be a coding issue rather than a lack of add-on functionality. Its a shame Zygor guides are crap as guides really :p cos I love the way the addon works. Our add-on makers should actually check it out if they can.

tag. 🙂

Hmm yea, Carbonite quest orHmm yea, Carbonite quest or lightheaded, both do the job.

I personally go with lightheaded because it’s a lighter addon and it’s enough to plot the coords to quest NPCs.

Since I don’t need all the extra features from carbonite really, I just go with the lighter addon. Once you’re following my guides in TourGuide format, carbonite and/or questlhelper really become nearly useless.

AmazingThis is an amazing addition to one of the already best guides for WoW. Even if you’re a user of Quest Helper, Carbonite Quest or other questing addons, this still improves questing speed for me. Many thanks!

My Setup:
– Carbonite Quest
– Tour Guide
– WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance file

Tour Guide is able to plot waypoints on the already fantastic GoogleMaps-style Carbonite maps/minimaps. No need for any other addons. Carbonite perfectly coexists with Tour Guide and adds value.

Yes you’re missing somethingYes you’re missing something 😉 But I think it’s because it’s not explained somewhere…
If you install the addon [url=http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html]Lightheaded[/url], tourguide will automatically add coordinates to quetsigvers.

Hello everyoneIm pretty new to using leveling guides at all, but recently I decided to make myself shammy alt and wanted to try out James guides as they have been recommended to me by my friends. So it seems I actually came at nice time as there was those addon version released recently. So far I have to say – it is really great. But there is one problem I cant seem to solve by myself. Im using TourGuide version and at some points of questing, when it comes to “Get quest X” from NPC which is not near the location Im currently at, Im lost finding where they are and where to get my new quest to continue. So far I was just searching those quests at wowhead.com, clicking to Start NPC and typing their coords to TomTom. Is it just me that I cant see where to actually get these quests or is that because those guides are still in progress and those coords are missing? Turning in isnt problem as Im using QuestHelper, going to quest objectives is fine too as there were coords so far, but when in comes to getting new quest “in the middle of the jungle”, TourGuide wont help me. Am I missing something important?

Thank you for you help and for all the great job you guys doing!

I decided to try outI decided to try out TourGuide today (did the Horde Nagrand part) and I really love this! The addons aren’t complete to make it as smooth as the real guides, but with time and updates I`m sure they will be. What I missed is the TourGuide version but with wow-pro custom’s design. That would be epic. I look forward to continuing with the rest of the Horde Nagrand guide now on the character I tested with. Good stuff. I love it.

Me neither, but I’ve hadMe neither, but I’ve had several requests, so I just decided to go for .zip and be done with it forever.

WinRAR can open .zip files as well, so that way everyone is happy.

.rar’s shouldn’t be a big.rar’s shouldn’t be a big problem, almost all downloaded files are in .rar, so everyone should have winrar at there computer 🙂

I never thought that .rarsI never thought that .rars are such a big problem 😀

Please hang on a fewPlease hang on a few minutes. I’m currently updating all the uploads with a newer version in .zip file.

downloadingI’ve downloaded tomtom and the coordinates addon but can’t seem to get the download for the actual guides. It won’t let me download the .rar files. Anyone got any ideas what I’m doing wrong? (Using Vista)

Actually, you can do itActually, you can do it yourself, because these pages are wiki pages 😛

oopsHehe,

well, i feel daft now.
Anyways, since it is in there, could you add notes to both guides that the discussion and questions about the guides should be in the forum.
That way people can leave regular comments and thats etcetera on the blog part, and soon as it goes techie, keep it sorted on the forum ?
Would make life easier i think.

Oh, btw, i started working on a web based interface for the guides, will be a while before it is ready tough.

Hmm, but we already have aHmm, but we already have a forum, there’s a link to it on the top menu.

I just created two new threads in the Guide Discussion forums section. One for each addon:

[list]
[*][url=https://www.wow-pro.com/node/2215]WoWPro Custom[/url]
[*][url=https://www.wow-pro.com/node/2216]TourGuide Style[/url]
[/list]

ForumHello Jamie,

Would it be an option to put a forum online for the guide editors and proggers.
I mean, a blog is fun and all that, but it isnt ideal for discussions.
Since we will be working on the addons and guid translations, it may be way easier to have a forum going, so every comment, question and update can be properly located and easy to vieuw back.
As it is now, i notice i read over the addon threads almost completely almost every time, missing posts, etcetera.
With it subcategorised in the different addons and then working / editing and maybe even per guide, more information can be gathered / added and sorted in much less time.

greets
Elmo

TourGuide can be easyTourGuide can be easy patched (by [url=http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/issues/detail?id=396&can=1&q=addon:TourGuide&sort=status%20milestone&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Addon%20Milestone%20Summary#c9]this patch[/url]) to display localised quest names on non-enGB clients. Can second addon do the same?

TourGuide + Jame = Hell yeah!Ive Just downloaded and started using the TourGuide style addon togethor with TomTom. This is amazing. I’ve been using your guides for years Jame.. But i’ve always just printed them out and followed along as i played. This is way better, I love it.

I was so amazed that it didnt have any issues with my other addons as most stuff does.

Keep up the great work!

Your points are valid, butYour points are valid, but the problem is that we couldn’t decide which addon to pick, the poll was close to 50/50. A lot of work has already been done for both addons as well.

With all that said, it’s not a waste of time if people are happier with one addon or the other. What if some people don’t like the tourguide style but love the wow-pro custom style? Or vice versa.

It’s ok, the wow-pro community is ressourceful, both addons will reach near perfection soon enough, don’t worry about it 😉

I think thatI think that it is a waste of time and energy to try to update and keep 2 programs current and up to date

I really prefer TourGuide version for all the reasons listed previously. As far as I am concerned, I can pull up James website in the background and refer to pictures if I need to…but from the quests I have done so far, I havent needed to.

Yes its nice to have 2 versions and let people choose…but there is SO much work to be done that it is MUCH better to focus on one and make it the best, then make it complete. It will get done much fster if all work on one then try to complete 2.

DKs rule…others drool

It’s thereIt’s in the How to Contribute wiki page for TourGuide.

Here:

https://www.wow-pro.com/wiki/james_leveling_guide_tourguide_style_contributing#Nuzz%27s%20TourGuide%20Editor

Jame said he posted itJame said he posted it somewhere on this site, but I can’t find it so I will post it here, I made an account on rapidshare so everyone can download

http://rapidshare.com/files/182293764/NuzzTourguideEditor.zip

Feel free to modify it if you are a programmer or suggest any improvements (but it already does everything I need it to do so I dont think there is anything major to do with it).

Make sure that you do not have any carriage returns in the “notes” section or it will make the guide not work. I was lazy and did not add that into my program yet. Little things like that don’t matter much when only one person uses the program, but if anyone has any concerns let me know and I could fix any bugs if they are found.

I understand there were some people concerned about having more than one version of the guide. I will take a look at the other format and determine if there is a way to convert from one to the other. I like the idea of having more than one addon to choose from since some people like certain addons. If we need to expand any of the tourguide stuff it should be easier with this program. I will write a guide on how to use it eventually when I have time

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Speaking of which, a bunch of guides have been added to the TourGuide section, and they need to be tested and improved (if possible).

Just so you know Jame, and IJust so you know Jame, and I think I speak for the WoW-Pro community on this one – if you ever see something in an addon of your guides that you don’t like, speak up right away and you (or one of us!) can change it 🙂 We all know these guides are your babies, we want them to be presented in the best way possible, and exactly how you want them 🙂

Got ’em. Just tried a fewGot ’em.

Just tried a few steps for the alliance tourguide file you made and honestly, it’s awesome as far as I can tell.

I’ll just replace the first few levels with other guides (Maw’s guide is just better than Joan’s, there’s way too much grinding in Joan’s human guide), but besides that it really looks perfect.

I’ll try your editor a bit later.

I sent you the files throughI sent you the files through the contact screen, let me know if you got them

HoorayHooray new addons, boo none of them being for the areas I’m in 🙂

Thank you very much forThank you very much for understanding. I am sorry for handling this immaturely in the past. I will put together a package of everything I have (including visual studio source code) for alliance and put it on rapidshare. My tourguide generator program can edit new guides and export them to lua format, but it cannot edit ‘guides’ that are already made. It has been tested thoroughly from 1-50 and works very well. 68-70 isn’t really done but the guide took me to 70 up to that point anyway

Hello Nuzz,

i would LOVE toHello Nuzz,

i would LOVE to see that editor en the source 🙂
Would you mind sharing it ?

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Editing TemplateHello Jamie,

If you aregoing to support both addons, fantastic.
I also saw you approved of the idea of a template style editor online to rework your guide. Also Great.

If this is to work out, and all will keep updated,
i suggest we make a template on how to rewortk the guides.
So that it can all be put in the database and exported easally to different addons.

I would be VERY curious to the addon and wysywig editor mentions below. would be an awesome start to work with.
The we could input stuf like :
Accept quest ( type )
So we could see the questtype, And give it parts ( kill certain mobs ) and it would be almost instantly ready for export.

Hey Nuzz.

I sincerely doubtHey Nuzz.

I sincerely doubt I rudely shrugged you off. It’s not my style to be rude, everyone knows that.

It’s true that in the past I refused when people offered to translate my guide in an addon. The main reason wasn’t me being afraid of it taking away advertisments. The main reason is that those guides are very dear to me and I originally wanted to do the addon part myself too, because I was worried that if someone else did it, I couldn’t keep the level of quality I wanted it to have.

Lately however I’ve realized that I would never make it on my own due to time constraints, and when Jahwo made a custom addon and let other people try it, I saw the positive reaction it got and how everyone was willing to help. So from that point I just thought “nevermind, I’ll just let the community help me on the addon part”.

And that’s how it all happened.

I don’t see why I would delete this account, you’ve come here and laid down your concerns in a polite manner. If your other account was deleted, it was either:

1. A mistake (and if it was, I’m sorry)
2. You broke one of the rules

In any case, you’re more than welcome here. So welcome 😉

Jame, I believe I asked youJame, I believe I asked you several months ago if you were interested in having me create a tourguide version. You rudely shrugged me off, saying that it would take away revenue from your advertisements. Now you are making your own version. I don’t know what the deal is here. I wanted to contribute just like everybody else, and do not understand why you took it upon yourself to decide that I was some kind of enemy.

I have a completed 1-70 alliance tourguide addon, and if you want me to share it, I will. I don’t care who takes credit for it. I also have an application that allows you to edit tourguide files in a wysiwyg-style GUI format. I can provide that as well as the source code.

But if you are going to delete this account like you deleted my other account on this site for some reason, then fine. I am not going to lose sleep over it. If I did anything to offend you before, I apologize about that and hope that we can start again new.

Thanks in advance.

Excellent news, definitelyExcellent news, definitely sounds like the right decision to me =)
Top work all who are involved
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