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some people might disagreesome people might disagree with my spec but i play a 51/13/7 build. You can see it right here http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfcGoIcIofMcostG0x0hZfM My deathknight is only 78 with quest gear and i put out about 1k dps solo and 1.3k dps in groups with buffs. May i remind you this is more of a leveling blood spec but it puts out decent dps as well.

My rotation is this

1.Icy touch->plague strike->Heart strike->Heart strike-> Obliterate->Death coil

2.Icy touch->Plague strike->Heart strike->Heart strike->Heart strike->Heart strike->Death coil
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Talent Specs for [Blood] Death KnightThe 51/18/2 Blood Specification link takes the user to a (47/18/2)build.
The 53/18/0 Blood Specification link takes the user to a (49/18/0)build.

Does the option for “Glacier Rot” (3rd and 4th in the current sequesnce) exist in the post 3.1 world?

Sudden doom changedBlizz changed Sudden Doom for 3.1.

Sudden doom is now 3 points, auto-casting Death Coil.

Lets hope they put in 3.1 without more changes to void my posts!

3.1 changes made this3.1 changes made this incorrect. Ignore my post please.

A big question indeed, but iA big question indeed, but i found frost dps very useful! NOTE: this is for single target)

Fight with a twohander and use the following rotation:

[b]|Icy Touch -> Plague Strike -> Oblirate -> Blood Strike -> Blood Strike-> Oblirate -> Frost Strike -> Frost Strike |[/b] -Repeat-

An use of this spec :
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVZG0xxIxbRhoVosxb
You have 2 not spend points left. Choose want you find nice, self i like Morbidity that making me tank sometimes 🙂

Upcoming patchWith the upcoming patch, you will be able to complete Blood Spec, have a permanent pet, and have 130 max runic power, this means death coil could become quite useful, and sudden doom means a crit heal on your pet, what’s not to love?

I’ll post a Primary Blood Spec link when I get the chance.
=Note=
This link will not help anyone until 3.1

Macro UsageYou should add something to let people know when they use attack macro’s with a Death Knight (any, not just blood) that attacks miss. With most classes, this isn’t that big a deal, you continue your rotation and hope you hit next time. With a Death Knight, if you miss early in your rotation, you fail to apply a disease, which can severely limit your DPS as you go deeper into your rotation. So many of our attacks are based on the number of diseases applied to the target that failing to have one (or more) of them on when you start to use abilities like Heart Strike and/or Blood Strike will make what could have been an awesome hit much less formidable. With my death knight I dont use attack rotations, I use priorities. Yes, if everything hits and all my diseases are applied, then I go through the rotations, but with prioritization, if I miss an attack, the first goal is to make sure your diseases are in place. If Icy Touch or Plague Strike fails to hit, you have to do whichever misses again right away, to get the disease up before you go into the rest of your rotation. Only after all of your diseases are applied do you use your other attacks, then when your runes are on cooldown is when you use your RP dumps. Blood will often have a full RP bar, so use it, but if your diseases aren’t up and you have runes to apply them, do so. Nothing will make your DPS higher than keeping all of your diseases on the target at all times.

That is a very difficultThat is a very difficult question to answer accurately. The math largely depends on your gear, so giving a quantitative answer is difficult.

What I can tell you is that while doing some 5-man dungeons tonight with an Unholy Death Knight and a Blood Death Knight, they both were the top 2 on the DPS list (my Hunter was a very distant 3rd). The Blood spec edged out the Unholy in all 4 instances we ran tonight, but it was close.

Basically, Death Knights are very difficult to build wrong. They have so few useless talents, especially when it comes to increasing DPS.

QuestionHi, just wondering, what do you think is the DPS for that Damage Rotation when I have all the the talents into my talent tree? Because im trying to find an awesome DPS spec that does pretty decent DPS, i’ve tried multiple but..only gotten up to 1.4k DPS, but my armor is pretty bad too, so that might do it, but i atleast want to get up to 1.8k with a good spec. Thanks in advance!

Ok thanks, just wanted to beOk thanks, just wanted to be sure.

Great guide btw.

If you choose to finish yourIf you choose to finish your blood tree talents first, then you’ll need to adjust your attack rotation accordingly. So, yes, you’d want to use Heart Strike before Obliterate in that case. Once you get Annihilation, you can switch them back.

Obliterate is before Heart Strike in the macros to allow for death runes to be created sooner for the next cycle in the rotation.

Finishing out the Blood tree first is not a bad thing. It really depends on your playing style. There are 3 things you are really looking to get from the Frost tree: more damage for frost spells, increased attack speed from victims of Frost Fever, and the ability to use Obliterate without consuming diseases. When leveling 60-70, most mobs are almost trivial to take down with any DK that it won’t matter if you finish the Blood tree first, or your Frost talents. That is, you won’t notice any big problems either way.

Obliterate without frosttree partHi,

I have a question about the use of obliterate before heart strike in the damage rotation.
When you decide to go for bloodtalents first instead of frost, you don’t get Annihilation until lvl >70.
So when you use obliterate first, your 2 heart strikes that follow in the rotation will miss 4 x 56 bonus damage, right?
Wouldn’t it be better to use the heart strikes first and then obliterate? (only in case you specced bloodtree first)
Or maybe I shouldn’t be stubborn and just follow your talentlist? 🙂

thanks,

Cathy

ThanksThanks for the help =) just started my new dk so i really appreciate your guide

Answer … sort ofI imagine pestilence is wearing off as you switch to a new target and continue spamming the repeatable macro?

Typically, I restart the initial macro either every new mob or every other one (depending on how long it is taking me to take them down). For example, if it takes me 5-7 seconds to kill the first mob, when I switch to the next one (which should have the highest HP of the mobs in the group I’m attacking), I’ll restart with the initial attack.

Once you get down to the last mob, you should also switch to the normal single-target attack sequence as it does much more damage.

If you are attacking several mobs and it takes you several runs through the repeatable macro before they die, I’d switch to the single target macros (forget Pestilence) and just tank the others while you kill each 1 at a time. You won’t damage them all at once, but since Heart Strike and Obliterate do much more damage than Blood Boil, you will likely take down the group faster.

questionIn the multiple targets repeat macro is there supposed to be a pestilence in the rotation? im having trouble getting through the whole thing before pest wears off

Thank You!Thank You!

It’s exactly the sameIt’s exactly the same rotation, except you use Blood Strike instead of Heart Strike.

Blood RotationHi, before you get Heart Strike what is the best rotation for Blood? I have so far been levelling as Unholy but having the Ghoul there all the time I find a bit annoying, so just respecced blood.

There is …First, there is a Frost guide: https://www.wow-pro.com/class_guides/frost_death_knight_tips

Second, your talent tree is not a Frost guide, but a Blood/Frost hybrid. You should write your own guide to discuss your suggestion.

Err, are you gonna link thatErr, are you gonna link that spec under every DK guide, regardless of the aim of the guide? 😛

This is a BLOOD Dps guide. The spec you linked is some sort of hybrid spec, it’s not even focused on DPS (and this guide is a DPS guide primarily).

Please post your information under a relevant guide or create your own guide.

Guys why none supportsGuys why none supports frostblood spec? Its the best for PvE adn tanking. You have endless survivability and can tank or dps. The set is here : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jbE0qc0csfMZhxxthx0oMRh

CorrectYou are correct. When I switched in Vicious Strikes, I forgot to change the order. Its fixed now. Thanks for pointing that out 🙂

The Glyph of Death Strike was changed in the 3.0.8 patch, which was just released 2 days ago. Previously, it gave you 2% more damage for every 5 runic power you had (without consuming the runic power), hence the maximum of 40% more damage. While it isn’t as good as it was before, its still better than any alternatives for this build. I’ll add a note about it soon.

Change in talent order & error in glyph?In following your leveling guide, I came across a little snag.

When you reach the point where you choose “Rune Tap”, you’re short a point in that rank. “Rune Tap” is good for 1 point of Thrid Rank Blood, followed by three points in “Death Rune Mastery”. However, before you can put any points into “Improved Rune Tap”, you need a fifth point added at that level. (I suspect that the error came from you substituting “Vicious Strikes” for “Two-Handed Weapon Specialization”.)

Given that you do plan to use “Dark Conviction”, I would suggest the following change:

31. Rune Tap
32. Death Rune Mastery 1/3
33. Death Rune Mastery 2/3
34. Death RUne Mastery 3/3
35. Dark Conviction 1/5
36. Improved Rune Tap 1/3
37. Improved Rune Tap 2/3
38. Improved Rune Tap 3/3
39. Dark Conviction 2/5
40. Dark Conviction 3/5
41. Mark of Blood
42. Veteran of the Third War 1/3
43. Veteran of the Third War 2/3
44. Veteran of the Third War 3/3
45. Dark Conviction 4/5

At this point, you can return to the order which the guide presents.

The other matter that I wanted to bring to your attention is the Glyph of Death Strike. In your writeup, you claim that the Glyph will provide a bonus of up to 40% damage to Death Strike. However, the actual glyph itself, both in the game and in your list’s popup information, says that the glyph only provides a negligible 2% bonus. Please explain the discrepancy.

Blood Worms and Rune Tap areBlood Worms and Rune Tap are great when doing Elites and Boss fights solo. For example, in Hellfire, Blacktalon is EASILY soloable with those talents. Sudden Doom is pointless for that purpose.

Level 80 changes a lot of things for every class, and Death Knights are no different. This guide was not meant to tell you how to build for Arena and Battlegrounds at that level, but rather how to quest to get to that level. After you get to 80, its expected you will respec anyway.

Mark of Blood is a lifesaver on PvP servers when facing Unholy Death Knights, Warlocks, and Hunters during the leveling process (assuming they are within about a 5 level range). It essentially negates a large portion of their damage output. On a PvE or RP server, that isn’t as necessary, but it still useful when facing multiple mobs.

Stupid to be different? If that was the case, we’d have nothing but cookie-cutter character builds all over the place. You play the game to enjoy it, and in my opinion, Blood is more fun to play. You disagree, and that’s fine.

And a large portion of the reason why Blood beats Unholy 1-on-1 (while leveling) is the higher burst damage it has at earlier levels.

Well, already the commentWell, already the comment about Blood Worms + Rune Tap, I don’t see a reason why those would be good either, just because you can have extra hp return -talents doesn’t mean you need to have them, I really haven’t had a need to get more hp than what death strike provides.

And to tell you the truth I can’t say that much about the usefulness of death coil while leveling as blood, but at lvl 80 Death Coil crits do so insane damage that sudden doom is very nice, especially with the whole “all dk spells that crit do 2x dmg”-thing, can’t remember the name. And the 20% chance to get a free Death Coil crit with “just” Heart Strikes is nice just because the amount of Heart Strikes you use.

And yes blood has enough RP but I still think Sudden Doom is more useful than either improved rune tap or Mark of Blood (4% from max HP when hit for 20sec, meh) and once again it’s useless most of the time because you just don’t need that much health return.

And Unholy is far superior towards blood in leveling, it does almost as good single target dps but better AOE-dps with the same amount of cooldown between mobs(which is none). The Survivability of Blood is obviously better than in Unholy but atleast at the moment theres “too much” of survivability in Blood, you just don’t take that much damage to need the huge amounts of health returns blood gives you. And the amount of AOE-damage you lose for survivability is too much, especially when you don’t even need the extra survivability.

More about the “not needing as much survivability”, while levelling I could just DPS down mobs with normal UH rotation, and when ever I left the fight without full HP, I would just use Death Strike once or twice on the next fight and would be back to full HP again. So there really isn’t any point of having more HP return than what you get from just Death Strike.

The point about “wanting to be different” is just silly, it’s stupid to be different just for the sake of being different, in my opinion atleast.

Blood beating Unholy in PVP is possible. Haven’t really had any problems beating Blood DK’s myself, but I guess in lower lvl’s with the same level of gear Blood might take the win, depending highly on just the amount of skill of both players.

Not “Must Haves”Sudden Doom is useless (especially for a Blood Death Knight). You spend 5 talent points and get a 20% chance that Death Coil won’t cost you any runic power and will crit. Blood DKs generate runic power like crazy so they aren’t concerned with generating more nor saving it. That is even moreso in the new patch since Dancing Rune Weapon will only cost 40 runic power.

Morbidity is a “nice to have” talent. You don’t need the healing as a Blood Death Knight because you don’t have the permanent pet. So you’re taking away damage from more skills to give it to Death Coil. That is fine, and is why I listed it as an alternative talent. Personally, I found my damage output was higher by putting points in talents that increased damage in spells and attacks I use more often as well as increasing attack speed.

There are several reasons you might want to level as a Blood. Unholy Death Knights are all over the place right now. Do you want something different? If you are on PvP servers, a Blood Death Knight easily handles an equivalent level Unholy Death Knight (and that pet of yours quickly becomes my own personal bandage while we are fighting). Finally, I found Blood to be more fun to play (personal preference). All in all, I disagree that Unholy is “far superior”. Blood Death Knights have no downtime between mobs either.

— EDIT —

Not to mention … in the build you provided, you took points out of Blood Worms, Mark of Blood (which is a MUST HAVE), and Improved Rune Tap. You could get Mark of Blood and either Blood Worms or Improved Rune Tap back by removing Sudden Doom. In my opinion, you’ve traded 2 must haves and 1 really good to have for 1 unnecessary and 1 nice to have. Not exactly a good trade-off.

I definitely agree with youI definitely agree with you on morbidity.

I don’t agree on sudden doom.

It’s 5 talent points! For what?

1. It’s only 20% chance, and only on heart strikes. That’s kinda weak, but anyway, once you get that proc:
2. It gives you a free death coil. But blood DKs don’t care about free runic power, they’ve got too much runic power than what they know what to do with it, and they don’t have enough GCDs.

Alright, it makes it a guaranteed crit. That’s the only good thing you get for 5 talent points.

I don’t know, I really can’t see how this is worth 5 talent points.

Sudden Doom and MorbiditySudden Doom and Morbidity are both a “must have” for any blood build, simply because death coil is the only RP dumb along with DRW, Sudden Doom procs insanely often and Morbidity is just awesome with the extra damage, both of them are way better than some of the talents you have picked.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqh0IcbRtzAoG0xLhZc

Even with a build like that, you would do way more damage, but still have more than enough of health “regen” from deathstrikes etc.

But anyways, I really don’t see a point in leveling as Blood when Unholy is far more superior, the only thing I wasn’t able to solo as unholy in levels 55 – 70 was Durn the Hungerer, and I think Blood wouldn’t have that much more of a chance in soloing him than Unholy has.

And before someone starts the usual “but there’s less downtime as blood!!!” -stuff, there is _no_ downtime as unholy, so I don’t see a way how Blood would have less than that.

“Two thumbs WAY up!”

This“Two thumbs WAY up!”

This is a very well written class guide. I like your break down of the talent points, well written, well thought out.

I’ve been using Blood to play my DK and your musings here, are helping to form a more coherent build.

Thanks again!

Thanks!Thanks 🙂

1. Good point. I originally had Two-Handed Weapon Specialization in the build, but removed it to put the points in Vicious Strikes (trading 4% increased weapon damage for +6% critical strike and +30% critical strike damage for Plague Strike and Death Strike). I’ve added a note about it and even a link to the 53/18/0 build. It basically boils down to increased consistent damage vs increased burst damage.

And you’re correct, this is more of a leveling build. I haven’t had a chance to test any Death Knight builds in the Battlegrounds, Arena, or even the big raid dungeons yet. I imagine that would be two additional guides (PvP and Raid) other than this one.

2/3. I knew I’d fat-finger extra ones in there somewhere lol. Its been fixed. I also split up some of the macros. The repeatable macro is the same for both Healing and Damage, but the Initial attack varies. For most non-Boss monsters, I have not had to go through 2 entire repeatable rotations before they are dead.

Also, the multiple macro has been fixed. I’m still working on optimizing the best times for Death Coil, though. Since this build generates runic power (as most blood builds do) insanely fast, it should be called often, but that has been difficult to determine so far (still researching).

4. I added a note about DRW when making the choice between finishing the Blood tree vs finishing the non-Blood tree talents. Personally, I didn’t find much need for DRW prior to level 70 (since I didn’t do any of the higher level dungeons before then) outside of fighting Unholy Death Knights while leveling (As a side note, DRW in combination with Rune Tap and the current Will of Necropolis makes it insanely difficult for Unholy or Frost Death Knights to take on a Blood Death Knight 1-on-1. When they nerf Will of Necropolis, this will likely even the odds tremendously, though).

5. Awesome! I missed that in the 3.0.8 notes somewhere, but that is great to see :-D. I added in the list. I left Glyph of Blood Boil as an optional glyph mainly because there isn’t really a great alternative 3rd major glyph for Death Knights right now.

Alright, I read through itAlright, I read through it thoroughly now and there are a few things I don’t agree with.

First of all I’ve changed the title of the guide, because this is a leveling guide – talents and tips for Blood DKs, more than a “DPS Blood DK” guide. The information in this guide is not really accurate for a raiding Blood DPS.

Now here are a few suggestions:

1. Two-handed weapon specialization. This one is a must have for leveling. Dual-wielding is out of question with the leveling build you provided.

Your talent build is clearly fit for Two handed weapons and NOT fit for Dual wielding. A proper dual wielding build doesn’t go full blood, it’s more like this: [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZG0ex0xbRhoZf0hhxckxcq0co]0/32/39[/url] or [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfV0VZG0ethxdRhoZfM0hxco]15/37/19[/url]. Basically, anyone dual-wielding without having 3/3 in [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=50138]Nerves of Cold Steel[/url] and 5/5 in [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51130]Killing Machine[/url] is going to suck. Actually, you also want [url=http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51411]Howling Blast[/url] as a Dual Wielder, because other primary attacks such as Heart Strike, are based on weapon damage, and that’s not good if you’re dual wielding, because your weaopn damage will be a lot lower than with a 2H. Now with that said, I see no reason not to go 2/2 in Two-Handed Weapons specialization in your build.

So which 2 points should you remove? Remove 2 from Blood Aura or 2 from Improved Rune Tap or 2 from Vicious Strikes.

This is after all a leveling build, and killing things fast should be the prime objective. Once people reach level 80 and want to do pvp, they’ll probably go for a different build anyway.

2. About the attack rotations. Why put Death Strike in it? Obliterate does a lot more damage and since you specced 3/3 in annihilation, might as well use it as often as possible.

Suggestion: Make 2 different sets of macros. One with Obliterate and one with Death Strike (use this one only when you need healing)

3. There’s two problems with your Multiple attack sequence:

– It makes you use pestilence followed by 2 blood boils. This is 3 blood runes in a row, so this is impossible unless you have Death Runes leftover from the previous fight, which won’t always be the case.

Suggestion: Make 2 sequences. The first one with only 1 blood boil. The 2nd sequence can have 3 blood boils (since you should have 2 extra death runes from casting obliterate or death strike in the first sequence).

– Should probably put Death Strike instead of Obliterate in that rotation. When you are taking on multiple enemies, your health tends to drop fast, so might as well use Death Strike to stay above 75% health as much as possible.

4. Might want to add a note about Dancing Rune Weapon:

As you may already know, DRW basically clones your weapon damage stats on creation. This means that you can pop Hysteria/Trinkets during Unholy Strength proc to get a DRW that does crazy damage. It swings for your white DPS and does all your abilities for half damage. (especially good to know on a boss fight, if you’re doing 5-man groups with this build)

5. About glyphs.

In patch 3.08, Glyph of Obliterate will be changed to:

Use: Your Obliterate strikes for 20% additional weapon damage.

It is now a straight up DPS increase for any level that wishes to use it. You should probably add it already, it’s gonna be a must have for all blood specs, especially if you got annihilation.

I’d remove the blood boil glyph, as it gimps your AoE power.

That’s about it for now. I’ll keep checking on this guide and help you make it perfect 🙂

This looks very, very VERYThis looks very, very VERY good. With the new patch (hopefully it will be on Wed, 21st) players will be able to create DKs everywhere with no server restrictions. I will create a DK on a different server to try out this build 🙂

Fixed the Back to top anchor.Fixed the Back to top anchor.

Nicely done. The info seemsNicely done. Most of the info seems accurate too, so if you keep improving this guide it will be awesome 😉

Small error: your “back to the top” anchor doesn’t work.