Passing by and some thoughts, Hi again WoW-Pro!

Shikamaru's picture

Hey there WoW-Pro members! =)
Just wanted to make a little write-up about how I'm holding up and what my thoughts are these days, so feel free to read this.

Some of you may know me, some of you may not. I'm Mike, known as Shikamaru, and I've had a great time writing guides and helping people on this website.
As some of you also may know and others won't, I was 14 when I started writing guides (yes, there are children perfectly capable of writing huge amounts of informative text). I've enjoyed my stay in the World of Warcraft a lot, but I stopped playing about 4 months ago. Why? Couldn't handle 3/4 days of raiding a week (tight time schedule) with on Frostwhisper. I must say that I've had a great time and learned a lot from the members of Max Performance, which was rewarded with a big thumbs up from my side!

After quitting WoW my time schedule wasn't as tight anymore as it was before, which opened up new routes for me. School is a breeze nowadays, I'm holding up pretty good. Soccer's been great this year, also. It's actually weird how much free time quitting WoW opened for me. I still think it's a great game, but it eats up time as if it was cake.

If I were to enroll in the World of Warcraft once again, would anyone want to level a character with alongside with me (through Recruit-A-Friend, maybe)?
I've always played WoW not just because I liked the raiding, gearing and perfecting my rotations, I've also been playing WoW in a way so that I could socialize with people (I tend to like people around me). Socializing in a game does not mean you can't socialize in your every day life, which most people think. Please stop reading if you do so. This had kept me playing for a good 2 years. I've made 4 friends in the World of Warcraft which I still speak regularly to, which makes my quite happy. I like to keep my contacts as good as possible, nothing can beat friends (or well.. a girlfriend can occasionally *whistles*).

If I DO roll back in (I have no idea when that will happen and even IF it's going to happen), I'd like to start writing guides again, also. This has been something that's pulling me back, actually. I've always liked writing guides, and Jame has helped me greatly in improving the lay-out of my writings and my writing in general, thanks Jame. This is actually helping me in school, writing essays or summaries is a breeze now.
Also, I'd like to thank Jiyambi for her impressive write-ups, great character and overall kindness. Quite happy actually I met some awesome people here! Ji, you're a great person! =)
And of course, there are the other people on this website which have helped me or have been extremely nice to me, thanks to all of you!

This is pretty much it for today, got to go back to learning some exams now. I'll pull through ^^
If you have any thoughts, questions or answers.. feel free to leave a comment and I'll read and reply to it.

/wave!

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I learnt :P

When I joined WoW in 2006 I was only 12 years old, fool-heartedly I joined a roleplaying server simply because I liked the colour green, not taking time to look up what it actually meant. Anyways, I was THE "lolboy" of the server, I had no idea what was going on and was more concentrated on calling roleplayers weirdo's.Over a very gruelling year for the rest of the server I started to enjoy roleplaying just as much as them and that lead on to me grasping English to a higher level and essentially brought my grades up in school.

After 2 years of on and off play I became indistinguishable as 14 year-old to most people, simply by improving my manner and the way I spoke. The most positive thing I think I have got out of it is that it's impossible for me to use chatspeak/textspeak, I find it extremely difficult XD

Really I'm trying to make two points. Firstly if you are an adult talking to a child or teen maybe you should try and nurture something good in them instead of just rejecting them, obviously this isn't a logical idea for most, but it can really help people out. You never know, you could get something good out of it. Secondly is for teens, maybe you should step back sometimes and observe how you act, it can be worthwhile and with the right people around you, you can be moulded into quite a respectable person.

Hope those tips actually help someone out, I know if I had known the second one I would have been a much more appealing person when I started playing WoW.

Gylin's picture

Hmmmm teenagers all painted

Hmmmm teenagers all painted with the same brush....it's an unfortunate thing really, but there are some truely appauling teens about. As an officer of a guild, I get to vote on any applicants, and some of those from teenagers....well you'd think they'd been homeschooled by their dog! That said we do also have some real bad ones from non-teens too.

There are some fantastic teenagers out there to, we have a 14 year old lead regular Friday raids, in fact most Fridays and he's doing really well. The other thing we've found with teenagers is they seem to only pester our GM for things, and a lot, getting to a point where she was avoiding playing at peaktimes, as she couldn't actually play.

I avoid most teenagers due to the time I normally play, about the earliest I'm ever online is 0:00 GMT (1:00am Server). I'd level up a new character with you if you want (or if you can't sleep!)

Lol even as I'm typing this it's 2:35am, and I haven't even logged on to WoW yet, and yes I don't sleep very much

Jiyambi's picture

My guild has a truly amazing

My guild has a truly amazing teen in it as well, he was 16 when he became an officer and started leading raids, though he is 18 now. We've had our fair share of awful ones as well, though. But we've never been sticklers on age, it's how you conduct yourself that matters. I guess it helps that my guild does not recruit nor do aps - if we've met you and like you you're in, if not, well you can try running a few things with us to get to know us but we don't do invites just based on an app. I think it's how we've been so successful at avoiding drama Smiling

Hurjo's picture

Might add me to the list aswell...

I was 12 when i wrote my UI guide here on wow-pro.. And danish is my mothertongue.. Sticking out tongue
So.. Add me to the 'youngster list' Eye

Re: Might add me to the list aswell...

I'm 13 and Writing on a Dungeon Leveling Guide atm. And swedish is my mothertongue Laughing out loud
so add me to the list too Sticking out tongue

Lycander's picture

Age shouldn't be a factor

Age has never really been a factor, at least to me. I tend to react to people based on how they play and how the treat others, not some piece of info that may not be correct in the first place. I do feel sorry for those of you youngsters that get saddled with the "kid" label, you're obviously talented and can contribute a lot if you're allowed.

Keep this in mind, though. Most people don't like having "kids" (anyone under 18) around because they have to watch themselves. Any of us adults (people over 18, even when we don't act like it) can get in serious trouble for saying something inappropriate. Most guilds use Vetrilo or another voice chat software and they don't want to get busted. Certain topics of conversation can can considered illegal when mentioned around a known minor, especially when details are involved.

And you're right, WoW is a huge time sink, but only if you let it. The point is to decide where you have fun with the game and go that route. If you don't like the end game, don't try and raid. (This is the biggest time sink, but can also be very rewarding). If you enjoy the alt scene, get a bunch going. I've got all 10 slots on Kalecgos filled, once of each class for Alliance. Lowest level is 31. (I'm currently trying to get them all out of Azeroth before Cataclysm hits).

Ayone who wants to socialize is welcome to come to Kalecgos, alliance side. The guild I'm in, Broken Hammer, was started by a few of my RL friends and some other people we picked up on the way. We've stayed a tight-knit group, even after splitting off our raiding tier to a different guild (Immemorial). There's usually someone on, and they'll usually be able to lend some advice or probably a hand.

Fair warning, though. This is a PvP server with a high horde population and most alliance don't care about PvP. This makes leveling subject to the whims of a bored player. Despite that, I stay on this server because I have made several friends, several in different countries. It's the atmosphere that we enjoy.

Shikamaru's picture

Some things might be illegal

Some things might be illegal when glancing at jurisdiction, but everyone (with just a tad bit of common sense) knows that 'kids' also know about most of the stuff that is being discussed by adults, whatever it may be.

But then again, that does not take away the fact that it's illegal and that people can get into some serious trouble for it, so for that matter, I agree with you. But is this really the reason guilds are setting an age requirement? I guess not, but that's from my point of view.

Lycander's picture

I would guess the real reason

Heh - "kids" probably know more about what's being discussed than the adults discussing it Smiling.

I would guess the real reason most guilds won't let "kids" in is that the adults don't to look stupid in comparisson. It's easy to say thats guy's a better player because he's had more practice, but when somone half or less of your age is doing better than you it hits the ego hard.

And there's also the fact that people have been burned. Immemorial has a couple of high-schoolers in one of our ICC 10 groups, one of which is the raid leader and MT. But we've also had the kids that show up and do whatever, then get all pissy when you try to tell them to act like everyone else. (I can tell you a real sad/amusing story if you're inclined to hear it.)

I can't say if this applies to everyone, but it has been my experience. Of course, I'm always willing to give someone a chance regardless of how others of their "demographic" have acted. Of course, I put the time in to make sure our guild gets the best players, and it means digging through the muck to find the gems. Most people don't seem to want to take that time.

And what I'm saying doesn't excuse anyones discrimination based on whatever criteria. I'm just trying to pass on what I've learned about it in case it helps you out somehow.

Shikamaru's picture

I get your point, but

I get your point, but still.. that shouldn't be a reason to put people inside a little box.

Also, I'd love to hear that story. I like enraged kids, they're so much fun to hear. We once had one on Ventrilo, who was arguing with our Guild Leader over a boss fight. Out of pure amusement I came with some arguments against his (I can.. formulate myself very, very well) drilling his face into the ground. This led into Ventrilo-wide laughing and jeering. It ended with him leaving Ventrilo, stepping out of the raid and guild quitting. Oh boy.. back in the day.

I still remember the words of my Guild Leader: ''Let's all have a minute of silence for yet another pathetic mind leaving our side''

Yes, there actually was a minute of silence.

Maw's picture

Quote:yes, there are

Quote:
yes, there are children perfectly capable of writing huge amounts of informative text

QFT.

I was 14 too, and now I'm 15.

Brain and intelligence beats age any day.

Jiyambi's picture

So... many... young

So... many... young people.

Frankly I think people discriminate cause the thought of people like you guys makes them feel stupid. I know I feel rather behind the curve knowing you guys can do so much so young! Eye

Maw's picture

Because of that

Because of that discrimination, I usually don't tell people I cooperate with my actual age until I've become acknowledged by them. If I do tell them, every single thing I do, write or make is in their eyes the work of a kiddo and they will judge the book by its cover, rather than its content.

It's funny, in school i get the grade 6 (on a scale from 1-6 with 6 as the best) in both English and Norwegian, but I only get a 4 in maths. I rather have a natural talent for writing and languages, than being a genius. And I'm surprised you feel behind the curve, Ji - there is a damn good reason you're an Administrator and we're just Exalted Members Sticking out tongue

By the way, I've quit WoW too, about two months ago. And I agree with Shika when he says that the game "eats up time as if it was cake", because it really does! Nowadays I'm just chilling, reading a couple of books a week and catching up on various animes and laughing my ass off every time Two and a Half Men is aired on TV.

I don't think I'll start up again any time soon, even though I got the impulse to do so recently and installed the game to 15% before I pulled myself together and turned the computer off. I still feel the need to solo 5 random scrubs in BG every now and then, but when I think about it, it's not really worth playing again just to get that thrilling excitement and adrenaline rush once a day. I've lived so much in this virtual world every since I was 10, that I didn't realize how rich life is until I quit.

I've now written this far and realize that this post has gotten way longer than I expected, so I'll just round this up by saying that I still think WoW is a great game, which is one of the reasons I still stop by this site from time to time, and that me quitting WoW is just my personal decision, not an hint or advise for others to follow my example.

It's been nice catching up and perhaps I'll write another guide for Cataclysm when it's out, if I decide to start up again, but I'll still be around in any case Smiling

Shikamaru's picture

Quote:I don't think I'll

Quote:
I don't think I'll start up again any time soon, even though I got the impulse to do so recently and installed the game to 15% before I pulled myself together and turned the computer off.

+1

Jiyambi's picture

Good to hear things are

Good to hear things are going well for you Smiling Even if you don't end up playing again, stop by from time to time and say hi, as you have been!

The main reason I play is not the game itself, though of course I enjoy it. But the reason I spend an hour or two each day online is to talk and spend time with my friends that I've made in game. I think I may have quit some time ago if it weren't for them, or if it was possible to spend time with them outside of the game.

Though, I also love perfecting my class, pimping my UI, and now learning lua, so... yeah Eye

On an afterthought - you seem to have sparked quite a conversation, Shika! Thanks!

Shikamaru's picture

What Talton is bringing to

What Talton is bringing to daylight here is something that is true and you can't work around it. There's a shitload of people in the younger generation (aged 12-18) who can't even write a standard essay, leaving out a comprehensive one. But then again, there are 'kids' in this generation that exceed our expectations, BY FAR. This, however, is probably only 5-15%.

Shikamaru's picture

Totally off-topic: I have

Totally off-topic: I have purchased and received my MacBook Pro (13'' model) EXACTLY 2 weeks ago. Today I went to the Apple Store seeing that they were actually updated (yes, I did follow the rumors), after which I instantly picked up the phone and dialed Apple's Customer Support.

After some talking the person I had on the phone wired me to Aftersales, which gave me the option of receiving a full refund for my machine, after which I could order one of the new generation. I have taking this offer, and they're picking up my current MacBook on Friday, and then I'll have to wait roughly one week to get my money back.

I'll be going from:

2.26 C2D --> 2.4 C2D
2GB RAM --> 4GB RAM
160GB HDD --> 250GB HDD
Nividia 9400M --> Nvidia 320M (specifically designed for Apple, one of the fastest integrated graphics processor currently in the market)
Also, a 10-hour battery life has been introduced.

This all makes it worthwhile for me, it's just awesome!
If there's anybody here that wants to contradict me and wanted the i'x' processors in the 13'' MacBook Pro, I'll gladly discuss this, as this isn't possible with their current set-up.

Benhir's picture

I'm an Apple user and I must

I'm an Apple user and I must say that the service you had was pretty much incredible. But honestly I didn't understand what problem you had 2 weeks after you purchased a new notebook. Apart from that you surely get a notable update! Wonderful to play wow on that computer...

Shikamaru's picture

I didn't have any problems,

I didn't have any problems, it's just that there's a 30-day return period. On normal occasion you'd have to pay a 10% (or 15%?) restocking fee, although the situation I'm in now nets me a full refund from Apple, which is great if you ask me!

Rob's picture

That's extremely good of

That's extremely good of Apple...

But I still stand by my status on Apple products: Ridiculously overpriced :3

I guess some of their products are excellent quality and look AWESOME, and judging by your incident they have top notch customer service, so I guess that's what you get for paying a little extra.

Man, I've totally contradicted my first statement. I'll just shut up and sit in a corner D:

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Shikamaru's picture

Hahaha, that made me

Hahaha, that made me laugh!
You got served by yourself, can't beat that ^^

Rob's picture

Owning yourself in arguments

Owning yourself in arguments is a sign of a high intellectual capability, actually. I think. Or a sign of serious retardment. D:

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Shikamaru's picture

Or a combination of both

Or a combination of both ^^

Nah, it's actually good that you can contradict yourself =)

Benhir's picture

Oh, hi!

Nice to hear that from you, Shikamaru. I've never been into end game raiding so i don't really know hot time-sucking is WoW, but I do realize having a more varied life is better. Actually the fact I work leaves me no time for become addicted to the game, so I guess I'm lucky from that point of view Smiling

Anyway, I sadly don't put myself into the list of "possible recruitable dudes" beacause I know that I won't be able to play more than 2 hours a day. But, if you mind, I'd like to roll on the same realm as you - just because I came back this weekend playing wow (all thanks gone to the "newbie no-more guide" !! Eye ) and I feel it's time to start from nothing just for the sake of having fun and enjoy the best of the game before the new expansion pack will change all the old-world charateristics.

So, this is just a little post to say hi and to say it's pleasant seeing you back on the site. =)

~Benhir

Lycander's picture

Welcome back, Benhir

Glad my guide did someone some good Smiling.

Shikamaru's picture

Hey Benhir, it's been an

Hey Benhir, it's been an awful while! Good to hear from you once again.

WoW is as time-sucking as you make it, which is where most people fail to see the difference between having fun and being addicted to a game. One should always see the difference between having fun and playing because you MUST. WoW is just not for people who can't handle this (and sadly enough, there is a shitload of those people, hehe).

It's not that it's needed to Recruit A Friend, although it'd give a nice boost in leveling. Now this wouldn't really matter, because I'll enjoy my stay anyways. Thing is that IF I come back, I'd like to play with people that I know, just to have that social part in the game, it's really important for me! =) WoW has always been a game that I liked because of the endless progression in PvE as well as PvP, but mostly of the social connections in the game. It might sound funny, but I think that's what kept me playing for those 2 years.
Also, through World of Warcraft I have come across one of the things I like the most these days, writing. It's just.. satisfying I can express myself in another language than my mother tongue and that people actually understand what I'm typing, which is great. The game and the people who play it have greatly improved my English (in which I never scored badly to start with) reading, writing and speaking, pointing out the speed in which I can understand and write things.

I'd love to play with you, actually. I think that if I were to enroll in the World of Warcraft again (IF..), I'd roll on Frostwhisper OR a server which I have never played on which has high recommendations. Wouldn't want to transfer my character across servers just because I chose the wrong server to start with (end-game wise). Would be kind of a waste, wouldn't it? Let me hear your opinion! What server would you like to play on?

P.S. Can anyone give me a reason why, as Rob said, we are being stereotyped as retards, cunts or anything similar? I hate that.

Benhir's picture

Well...

Actually, in EU servers population has gone down a bit, from what I've seen in the last week-end. There are very few "full" realms on peak times, and during the day (like, sunday afternoon) almnost all realms weren't full. So, I see that nowadays there is no more the queue problem that was present back at WotLK kick out. I can speak only about PvE servers, as I've never played on a PvP one, and I can say that the best ones are the ones with the more country-varied population. For my experience a realm with a lor of players from the same country is more like to emarginate players that don't speak theire langauge. That said, I can name Chamber of Aspects (played a lot when it was opened, then I left it for 6 months, then came back and it was still great) and Aerie Peak (actually the realm that I used the most, 1 year and It was great). I don't say I would like to play on their realms but I'm just naming the best servers I've used to give you an idea of things Smiling

~Benhir

Rob's picture

Who's being stereotyped as a

Who's being stereotyped as a retard? D: I've forgotten what I've said.. I think I'm going senile >_<

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Shikamaru's picture

Woah, you didn't say

Woah, you didn't say anything! =D
Don't get me wrong.

I was aiming at people in general, why they're stereotyping US because we are below the age of 18, which makes us complete retards.. obviously.

Edit: I read about stereotyping in one of your guides. I tend to remember things when I read them Sticking out tongue

Rob's picture

Ah, yes. The ACTUAL retards

Ah, yes. The ACTUAL retards are the ones who stereotype based on age. I've applied for numerous guilds and I've shown maturity simply in the way I type, yet I still get the reply 'NO UNDEER 18S PLZ LOL KIDS.'

Just thinking about it makes me want to go all Angry German Kid on my keyboard..

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Shikamaru's picture

Exactly. Although this is

Exactly. Although this is not always the case.. back in the day (about 6 months ago) when I was still playing, my Warlock actually got decently geared enough to apply to one of the better guilds on Frostwhisper. I thought it through a little bit and my eye fell upon Max Performance, a fast progressing guild back then.

I made an application, and they were hesitant about my age. This was partly taken away by the good written and long application, but what actually got me in is that people who raided with me before said that I'm a mature, calm person and could put out some serious damage.
So, I got in. Raided with them for 2 months to full extend, and it was awesome! Was putting out a steady 6.5-7k damage in Trial of the Grand Crusader (not looking at the twins etc.), it was great. Didn't play long enough to experience Icecrown Citadel, I already stopped playing by the time that came by, sadly enough.

I don't know if I would focus on raiding again, though. I don't think I have the time to raid 2 or 3 days a week (whereas you can Arena whenever you want if you set up your team correctly).

Angry German Kid is.. Angry.

Jiyambi's picture

Shika! Glad to see you

Shika! Glad to see you around here again, and thanks for all the compliments, I'm blushing!

I'm on a US server, or I'd definitely do RAF with you! I think Rob would be a great choice, since he's in Europe as well (and if memory serves, you are too).

Hope to see you around here more often!

Shikamaru's picture

Ji, lovely Ji ^^ How're you

Ji, lovely Ji ^^
How're you holding up these days? You switched from Chemical Engineering to something else, didn't you? How's that going?

Sad thing you're on a US server, I would've loved to play and talk with you Eye
How is WoW these days, is it still interesting?

Jiyambi's picture

Yeah, trying out computer

Yeah, trying out computer science actually, hope to start school in the fall.

WoW is still fun, mostly because I switched toons. I've been healing on a paladin these days, and I kick butt at it if I do say so myself. Got into an ICC10 with a newbie second healer last week and pulled 10k heals per second on Festergut Shocked sadly it still wasn't enough to keep the tanks up >_<

I've been teaching after school science classes as a temporary job until I start school again, it's been great Smiling Very fun, wish I had something like that when I was a kid.

Also been working my butt off learning addon programming to help WoW-Pro out.

And that's about it in the life of Jiya!

Shikamaru's picture

Hehe, working hard I see.

Hehe, working hard I see. Gah well.. if you have fun in what you're doing it's okay, right?
I'd actually find it interesting to start addon programming myself, I love doing that kind of stuff. Do you have a little starting guide? I recall Jahwo having a guide on how to write addons, wasn't it?

Jiyambi's picture

Jahwo's guide on this site

Jahwo's guide on this site is extremely well written. I went through it and it's a good basic level tutorial. I have an addon book as well, but I honestly think Jahwo's was better! Though it was short so he didn't have time to go into the complicated stuff.

WoWWiki has some good resources, but honestly unless you know what you are looking for you can get really really lost! I tried to skip ahead in the book I'm working from and it wasn't a great idea. I'm going back through it now and actually working out each of the examples - you learn a LOT more from doing that than by just looking at the code.

As soon as I get a basic skeleton for this addon set up I really want to try to get some collaboration going (and I don't think that will be too far off now). Do you have gchat? PM me with your contact info if you do and I'll see if we can get something going.

JamesL85's picture

Book?

Which LUA book did you get Ji? I thought I remembered seeing a couple of them the last time I was at Hastings. We're leaving for New Zealand in just under 4 weeks so I'll have a couple of 13 hour plane trips with nothing to do but twiddle my thumbs so I'd like to find something to read.

Jiyambi's picture

There are two good ones out

There are two good ones out there - it depends how heavy you want your book! I got "World of Warcraft Programming", but unfortunately I accidently got the first addition, so it's been a bit of an adventure figuring out what things have changed - their website and wowwiki have been helpful in that. The second edition is a good one, though. The World of Warcraft Programming book is written by the guy who designed TomTOm and Clique.

The other good book out there is Beginning Lua with World of Warcraft Add-ons. It's written by the guy who wrote Deadly Boss Mods. I briefly leafed through it and it seemed good and got very good review on Amazon. It's a lot smaller then the one I have, though. I think the main reason is that it has less reference material, but it does also have a website with references so I don't think that's really a down side - honestly I'm probably just going to use wowwiki for my references anyways.

At least around here, the book I got is about twenty dollars more than the other book, so that's something to keep in mind as well.

Rob's picture

I would LOVE to level a

I would LOVE to level a character with you. I don't know you, but just from reading those few paragraphs I can tell that you're a friendly, easy to get along with person.

I myself am almost 15, so I think we're around the same age meaning we still have school, homework etc to do and I'm sure you know, real life comes before WoW.

I have been ravaging my mind to which class I want to make and level in preparation for Cataclysm, and I think this would be an excellent opportunity for me to create a new character. IF you do come back to WoW, I don't mind which server or faction, and if we were to RaF I'm afraid you'd have to be the one buying the new account as money has been quite tight for me and my family this year.
If it's a problem for you too, then no worries. I'm more than capable of levelling a character without a 300% increased experience boost Sticking out tongue

If it should happen that you DO come back to WoW and have multiple replies to this, I'm fine with levelling with more than one person. It'd be slower without RaF, but it'd be alot more fun Sticking out tongue (That's ofc if you're okay with levelling with more than one person)

Thanks,
Rob.

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Shikamaru's picture

I actually am an

I actually am an easy-to-get-along-with and a simplistic person ^^
I turned 16 two weeks ago, so that indeed confirms that I still have school + homework to do ocassionally. Real life indeed has priority over World of Warcraft, which is easy to understand (this is, if you're not getting absorbed by the game).

Anyways, you seem like a friendly person yourself, I like people who can express themselves in words without irritating me for the insufficient knowledge of the language itself Sticking out tongue

We'll see what the replies bring us =)

Rob's picture

Also, just wanted to mention

Also, just wanted to mention my main is on Saurfang EU. Should you choose to come back to WoW, gold will be provided for training/mounts if wanted Smiling

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Rob.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."

Hurjo's picture

Oooh

Nice to hear from you again Laughing out loud!

Hope youll be making your comeback soon Smiling.
About that RAF thingy... I guess i could be in for it, although that would make me the recruited.. Rectruiting aint allowed in silly Denmark -.-.

Amyways. Always nice to hear from one of the veterans again! Laughing out loud

//Jon

Shikamaru's picture

Hehe, How're you holding up

Hehe, How're you holding up Hurjo? It's been a while mhm.
I'm the one in need of a new account, so I guess that's not going to work out though =(

Anyways, great to hear from you again. How's WoW these days? I stopped playing right before 3.3 (I did raid Trial of the Grand Crusader with my guild, though), how is Icecrown Citadel and what can we expect in future patches?

Edit: wait a minute.. you being the recruited could actually come in handy.. that is if you are going to upgrade the account ^^

Hurjo's picture

Well, Icecrown is great! I

Well, Icecrown is great! I am also in some of the busy years, so real life takes its time aswell.. (IF Football counts as real life.. Sticking out tongue)
Means that im only halfway through ICC.
The Ruby Sanctum is coming out soon (New "wing" at the Wyrmrest Accord). Probably as part of the 3.9 patch.

What do you mean by being handy that i am to be recruited?

Anyways, maybe its better to toss the ball over to Rob Smiling