WoW-Pro Guild Discussion

Manovan's picture

I have some reflections about the WoW-Pro ingame community from watching the poll currently going on.

It seems there are about equal interest for Alliance and Horde factions and I think this is solved best this way:

We roll on a PVE realm (on both the US and EU versions of the guilds of course). One Alliance member creates a guild called something like WoW Pro Alliance and a Horde member creates a guild called WoW Pro Horde. As far as I know, you can create characters from both factions on PVE realms and you can therefore be a member of both guilds (this haven't been changed, have it?). The guild can then have the same ranking system like the website: Trusted, Honored, Revered, Exalted etc and the members have their ingame ranks accordingly.

With the amount of members who have voted in the poll I'm sure there is enough interest to create these guilds with pretty good activity on both factions. What are your reflections?

In-Game Community Wiki

Realm suggestions
Terokkar (Normal - Recommended) - EU
Bladefist (PVP - Recommended) - EU
Borean Tundra (Normal - NEW!) - US

Comments

Matthias's picture

Since no one's listed a US

Since no one's listed a US PvP realm yet, I'd like to suggest my home realm, Demon Soul.

Benhir's picture

The guild on terokkar.

I am going to ask to all the wow-proers on Terokkar EU (6 of us signed on the wiki page, PLEASE add yourself if you are reading this and wanna play!) if the guild name choosen by Jawho is ok: he has already purchased a charter and called the guild "wow pro". I like it because it's clear and simple. I think it also will be a good way to promote the site, because if a non-registered user of this site will eventually see a guild named "like the site", he will certainly ask for more information and maybe join both the guild and the site.

Answer here if you can or contact Jawho (whose in game name is Jahwy) or me (you find me on my lil' dwarfy named Benhir).

Bye Smiling

new to aliance

im new to the alliance but i would love to join a guild and play on im in US

Shinke's picture

Scoon, 6 US players,

Scoon,

6 US players, including myself, have rolled on Fenris(US-PvE).
If you would like to join us, and it sounds like you do, add your name to this.

I have not played in a couple days, but I think everyone's in the 10th level range. I'm at 12 myself.

Manovan's picture

Has the guilds been created

Has the guilds been created on Terokkar yet? I haven't played the last 2 days.

Vildecor's picture

I went ahead and created a

I went ahead and created a Wiki for us to list our characters so people know who to contact. If we decide that these realms are not the final choices, we can just edit it.

Please add your characters to the list!

Benhir's picture

Good work. Can you please

Good work. Can you please add me on the EU-Normal server? Ingame name is Benhir Sticking out tongue

Zerinj's picture

Which server are majority of

Which server are majority of the WoW-Pro users on? I can't seem to deduce whether its Borean Tundra or Fenris.

Vildecor's picture

Unless people who rolled on

Unless people who rolled on Borean Tundra post here, it seems Fenris has more of us.

Zerinj's picture

I see, are you online at the

I see, are you online at the moment?

Vildecor's picture

Not currently, no. I was

Not currently, no. I was debating creating a wiki page to list each Wow-pro user's character for each realm so we wouldn't clog up this page and give something easy to reference so we know who to add to our friends list.

So far it seems the PvE realms for EU and US are pretty much spoken for.

I could go ahead and create the page and once PvP realms are decided, the list could be populated.

dark_fanboy's picture

2 copper

I'm not opposed to playing anywhere and I can tolerate playing Alliance side only if I have good friends around. I'm just starting to get involved in the WoW Pro community myself but I think if everyone can learn to put up with my eccentric behavior and sometimes overbearing personality we'll be fine. The name of the guild though I'm still not keen on any names. At first I would have reservations about instantly naming it something regarding wow pro, but since it will be a pve server naming convention won't matter.

A quick notice about Borean Tundra:

Quote:
[US] Account-Wide Death Knight Creation Update
Death Knight creation is now available on all eligible realms. Please read the FAQ for more information on death knight creation.

Grizzly Hills and Borean Tundra currently are not available for death knight creation. Character creation is currently locked on Wyrmrest Accord and Winterhoof. (Source)

Don't be famous, be infamous

Don't be famous, be infamous

dark_fanboy's picture

US Servers

How many US players do we have that we know of?

Don't be famous, be infamous

Don't be famous, be infamous

Shinke's picture

On Fenris, ally side, I've

On Fenris, ally side, I've had contact with 4 players from WoW-Pro, not sure how many are there that haven't contacted me... If you're there, contact me through a private message on THIS website...I won't be able to play for a while..

Benhir's picture

I'm not from the US servers

I'm not from the US servers and I don't know the players coming from the US. Though I know that Shinke has rolled on Fenris, ally side. You should try to contact him and see if he knows a bit more about the comunity!

Maw's picture

You're right, what do I

You're right, what do I know? Let's just play on two different factions. When I think about it, it's not that big of a problem after all Sticking out tongue

Manovan's picture

As far as I know, there are

As far as I know, there are already people who have rolled Horde on Terokkar. Those I interacted with on Alliance side yesterday (when I tried your guide, btw) was Jahwo and Benrir. I want to know for sure, however, if we'll only purchase one charter or if we'll purchase two. And if two, what are the guild names? Who will purchase it and how do we get in contact with every member to invite them?

Jahwo's picture

We could just call one guild

We could just call one guild "WoWPro" and the other one "WoW Pro" Eye

And we'd have to make a thread or something with the names of persons who can invite to the guild, so anyone who wants to join has someone to speak to ingame.

Manovan's picture

WoW Pro InGame

WoW Pro InGame Experience
WoW Pro InGame Community
WoW Pro Brings You XP
WoW Pro Makes You Ding

Some suggestions.

Jame's picture

Haha I like WoW Pro makes

Haha I like WoW Pro makes you ding!

Jiyambi's picture

Me too!

Me too!

Jahwo's picture

I don't

I don't Cool

Benhir's picture

I think it will be better if

I think it will be better if me make another thread about the guilds formation and to make easier to recruit the people.

Shinke's picture

Okay, so you ducks across

Okay, so you ducks across the pond got your realm picked n all.. How bout the NA realm? Does any US resident besides me and Jiruru want to do this? Or are the EU folk gonna get all the fun?

Jiruru's picture

I hope more want to play on

I hope more want to play on this side. Otherwise we're gonna have a pretty small guild.
*waves "Go Team US server!" flag*

Shinke's picture

Yes I know.. maybe once we

Yes I know.. maybe once we get something established more people will be interested?

Name a realm and faction, I'll start the guild..

Jiruru's picture

Well you seemed pretty set

Well you seemed pretty set on Fenris earlier and like I said I have no problem with it. As for faction I really have no preference, I like them both pretty equally.

Shinke's picture

Alright I'll get going on

Alright I'll get going on Fenris. I just wanted to double check that Fenris was O.K. with you. Smiling
I've got a 73 Death Knight on Horde, so I'll test the Ally guides this time. Marlois, Human Paladin. Go ahead and add me, I'm on right now Smiling

Jiruru's picture

Oh sure I'll be on in just a

Oh sure I'll be on in just a bit, just gotta finish up some other stuff first.
Well, that and I haven't exactly figured out what I wanna play yet.

Shinke's picture

I thought the same

I thought the same thing..but I decided I want to start tanking, so paladin was for me!

FOR ALL YOU WOW-PRO'ERS OUT THERE IN THE US, WE ARE ALLIANCE ON FENRIS. I AM CHARACTER NAME MARLOIS, ADD ME, SEND ME A TELL, WE'LL SETUP THE GUILD AND WHATNOT.

Vildecor's picture

Creating a toon here as

Creating a toon here as well. Hmm...Vildecor the Night Elf Priest.

I'll create a toon this

I'll create a toon this morning on Fenris. Tenafly a night elf hunter.

Also created a human warrior

Also created a human warrior named Vermin so I could test out the new tour guide addon. Love it!!

Jiruru's picture

Oh, I wish there was more

Oh, I wish there was more interest in this over on the NA side of the Atlantic. All you Europeans are gonna be having fun playing together but over here there's seems to be so much less interest.

Edit: Ack, I wanted to make this a response to the topic under mine, not its own comment. I'm sorry!

Benhir's picture

I feel sorry for you, Jiruru

I feel sorry for you, Jiruru Sad

On some comments I found that Manovan has already rolled on Terokkar, followed by Jawho. Let's clarify things: is Terokkar going to be the final choice? Anyone has found good names for the guild? I only think bad names such as "WoW Pro army" or "Jame's minions". If I'm right, we are going to create first the alliance guild, but we need players willng to roll horde and start another guild as well!

Maw's picture

Just call the guild ,

Just call the guild "WoW Pro", atleast not "Jame's minions", that's giving too much credit to one person, which after all is just a part of a large community.

Sorry Jame, I hope you don't get me wrong now Sticking out tongue

Um, by the way. Making both a horde guild and an alliance guild is ridiculous. This will split us too much apart. Just roll Horde, and not alliance. After all, the poll indicates that most people would like to roll hordes.

And rolling on Terokkar is just fine. The other poll indicates that most people would like to roll on a normal server.

So ideally, the wow-pro in-game community should be like the following:

  • Horde
  • On a Normal realm (Terokkar)
  • Not both factions

Jame's picture

Haha, please not Jame's

Haha, please not Jame's minions or anything of the like. "WoW Pro" is fine!

Brune's picture

Nooo!

Nooo!

Brune
Brings Game Experience To You!

Manovan's picture

I like them both.

I like them both.

Manovan's picture

I don't think it'll split us

I don't think it'll split us apart since you can roll both factions on the same realm if it's PVE. I'm not joining to stick to one char, I'm joining to create multiple alts for the sake of my guide writing (both Horde and Alliance).

Maw's picture

Okay, really - your ideas of

Okay, really - your ideas of both factions on the same realm are ridiculous.

Having two factions removed the whole point of the in-game community. It were supposed to be a place where you can just simply log in and interact with other people from WoW-Pro. But what's the point of that when close to half of the people will play on the opposite faction.

Alright, by rolling on one faction, alot of people won't get their will, and will have to adjust to the majority's wishes. But that is neccesary in order to gather the community in-game.

This whole thing is just a big mess, and people just do things without being sure if that's what other people want. I suggest that you just stick to the results of the polls and go by that.

Well, enjoy the reroll. As it looks now, I'm certaintly not gonna join, that's for sure. Manovan, I could avoid saying this, but I will - your ideas of playing on two factions ruined the whole thing.

That's all, and I hope you wont get too mad about this Manovan, but I'm just telling the truth.

Manovan's picture

I don't mind joining a Horde

You're not telling a truth, you're stating an opinion. It might prove to be the truth eventually, but it's way too early to claim that it is now.

I don't mind joining a Horde guild at all and personally, I had plans to join them both.

My own personal reason for wanting both factions might be egoistic because I wanted to take the opportunity to work on my Darkshore guide (something I couldn't do with only a Horde character). However, I can always do that guildless.

But you must understand that it's already divided even past continents. Like when you say that you won't join because of both factions, others won't join because they lost the faction poll. Others won't join because they wanted PVP, RP or RPPVP realms. This is a big community and we all want different things. Just because we have polls doesn't mean that everyone will be pleased. That's impossible. It only means that a majority will be, despite how many are part of the minority.

I thought a guild for both factions would please the most people. If it doesn't, then we need to rethink this. After all, there were hundreds of votes. Even a faction split would probably mean two guilds with lots of activity.

Maw's picture

Quote:Others won't join

Quote:
Others won't join because they wanted PVP, RP or RPPVP realms. This is a big community and we all want different things. Just because we have polls doesn't mean that everyone will be pleased. That's impossible. It only means that a majority will be, despite how many are part of the minority.

Might be a bad example, but it's like paying taxes; everyone isn't as happy about it, but it's neccesary in order to make the system work. And in the end, it actually pays of.

Everyone won't be pleased about playing on another type of realm than what they want, but it can't hardly be that bad. They'll just have to adjust themselves to the opinion of the majority. While writing this, I were just watching Obama on TV, and came up with another example; in the recent US election, Obama got elected. Those who voted for McCain, will just have to accept that the majority want's Obama. They will therefore just accept that, and make the best out of it. I don't think all of those were pleased about it, but that's how it works when voting for something - you can loose, and will have to adjust to the wishes of the majority. Besides that, there isn't that much of a difference between Obama and McCain.

I hope this clarified something Smiling

Manovan's picture

I think it's wrong to

I think it's wrong to compare faction choice to politicians. The losing party is pretty much stuck with the winning one for the next four years while the losing faction can quit their chars and go back to their mains or reroll guildless. If we force our members to only roll Horde chars, I think they will be bored and end up quitting the guild with no other option than to go back to their previous characters.

Two guilds equals a split, but members have the option to choose either one side or both which prevents some of the quitting.

Brune's picture

New poll time: Would you

New poll time:

Would you get really annoyed and abandon a fun, guild project and act like a spoilt child if your option wasn't chosen?

That solves the problem.

Someone honoured put it up, please Smiling

Jiruru's picture

Personally I think sticking

Personally I think sticking to one faction might be the best. There's already the forced split due to different continents, which I was bemoaning earlier, making the community divided, so even more splits aren't going to help things.

Manovan's picture

Jahwo rolled followed by me

Jahwo rolled followed by me actually. Now I'm closing in on level 6. How about WoW Pro Alliance and WoW Pro Horde? Smiling

Brune's picture

You're not thinking

You're not thinking laterally Sticking out tongue

The guild should be called 'Brings Game Experience to you!'

Sticking out tongue

Shinke's picture

I'd run the Horde guild if

I'd run the Horde guild if no one else would be willing to.

Benhir's picture

Ok for me! My plans are to

Ok for me! My plans are to play only a horde DK, while I'm gonna level alliance to test the addon-guide. Let's see what other players think about it. EDIT: Just noticed you are for the US servers. Don't mind me, pretty bad day!