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| Maw's Alliance Leveling Guide 12-20
4.75 Average: 4.8 (4 votes) Table of Content Introduction Following this guide will take your Alliance character from level 12-20 in a very low amount of time. Colour Codes Getting Started To be able to use this guide, you'll have to have some things completed already. If you have leveled a Human character, or atleast have followed my 1-12 Human Leveling Guide, you don't have to worry about this. Do the following things: 1) Talk to Marshal Dughan
Follow the level 10-12 section of my Human Leveling guide. Level 12-15
1) Talk to Mountaineer Cobbleflint
Hint: Use the Explosive Rockets when you have to fight two of them at once. 4) Talk to Mountaineer Cobbleflint
Sell, repair and restock
1) Talk to Thor
2) Talk to Dungar Longdrink
4) Talk to Dungar Longdrink
b. There is alot of Defias mobs in this area c. When you are at The Molsen Farm, pick up any Handful of Oats you see.
2) Talk to Scout Galiaan
Sell, repair and restock
1) Pick up any Handful of Oats you see at this location.
2) Kill every Harvest Watcher on this field. 3) Inside the house, click Furlbrow's Wardrobe and get Furlbrow's Pocket Watch.
Make sure you have the items listed below, and save these for later use:
9) Talk to Captain Danuvin
Sell, repair and restock
10) Kill 15 Defias Looters and 15 Defias Pillagers. Grind until you're 5 bars above level 15 -Use Hearthstone- 11) Talk to Gryan Stoutmantle
13) Go to the Valley of Heroes in Stormwind, and exit the city Level 15-16
1) Talk to Guard Thomas
3) Talk to Guard Thomas
1) Talk to Guard Parker
1) Talk to Shawn
3) Click Oslow's Toolbox, and loot it.
5) Talk to Master Mathias Shaw
8 ) Talk to Smith Argus
1) Talk to Martie Jainrose
8 ) Talk to Gryth Thurden
Level 16-18
1) Talk to Innkeeper Hearthstove
Get 4 Miners' Gear
6) Talk to Prospector Ironband
![]() 1) Talk to Marek Ironheart
This quest has a timer on 15 minutes 3) Talk to Daryl the Youngling
This quest has a 12 minute timer 5) Talk to Daryl the Youngling
1) Kill Loch Crocolisks, get 5 Crocolisk Meat and 6 Crocolisk Skin 2) Kill 10 Stonesplinter Skullthumpers and 10 Stonesplinter Seers while picking up the items listed below:
1) Talk to Jern Hornhelm
3) Talk to Prospector Stormpike
1) Talk to Jern Hornhelm
5) Kill Ol' Sooty
1) Protect Huldar and Miran form the ambush, then Talk to Huldar
2) Talk to Prospector Ironband
4) Kill Stonesplinters and get 8 Carved Stone Idol 5) Talk to Magmar Felhew
1) Talk to Daryl the Youngling
3) Talk to Mountaineer Wallbang
-Learn new skills-
5) Talk to Gryth Thurden
Level 18-20
1) Talk to Gryan Stoutmantle
1) Kill Defias Highwaymen, Defias Pathstalkers and Defias Knuckledusters on your way to step 2. 2) Talk to Grimbooze Thunderbrew
3) Kill the remaining Defias Highwaymen (15), Defias Pathstalkers (5) and Defias Knuckledusters (5) you need to complete "The People's Militia". 4) Talk to Captain Grayson
He wanders up and down the coast, and is a large, black Murloc 6) Talk to Captain Grayson
![]() 7) Talk to Gryan Stoutmantle
1) Follow this route and get the items and kills listed below: 2) Talk to Deputy Feldon
1) Talk to Barkeep Daniels
In order to be able to continue on Boston's Leveling Guide 20-30, I'll have to put a little grinding in here. I don't like doing this myself, but sadly, all the Redridge Mountain quests I use to do at level 19, Boston does at level 20. So therefore, you'll have to grind this last part. This is actually faster than going to another region and doing quests there. Just get the grinding routine going, and the grinding will be over in no time! ![]() Grind until you are one bar away from dinging, then use Hearthstone. ![]() 5) Talk to Chef Breanna
Congratulations on level 20!
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Having Trouble
I am by no means skilled at World of Warcraft, but I am seriously dying a lot at the first Westfall section on my rogue. I am at the place where you have to kill Defias Looters and Pillagers, but almost every-time I get a kill, I get killed and have to retrieve my corpse. How would I go about not dying so much?
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there is really no real
there is really no real answer to this but you could check out
http://www.wow-pro.com/jame_rogue_guide
hope this helps you
Great Guide
Excellent guide, along with the 1-12 one. Sure there are a few parts with lots and lots of running, but like others said, it's necessary in order to get the flight paths. And I like how you actually have quests along the way, so it's not even just a long pointless run.
Normally I just try to grind out quests in Loch Modan/Westfall/Redridge on my own, without using a guide. The problem is you run out of quests way too fast this way, ending up with only orange or red quests in your log, which means you have to jump back and forth between the 3 zones, wasting a lot of time. This guide basically does the same thing, but in a very efficient way.
One suggestion I have is to include the quest "[15] Humble Beginnings" from Baros Alexston in Cathedral Square, Stormwind. You end up killing mobs right at his house anyway (Defias Looters and Pillagers), and even return to Stormwind the very next step.
Edit: One more thing: On the part of Westfall right after turning in the quest "Coastal Menace", you should NOT kill yourself. They added a graveyard southwest of Deadmines, so you'll rez pretty much right where you died, instead of right next to Sentinel Hill.
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I'll look into these things
I'll look into these things when I bother, thanks for the feedback!
Nice job
big time saver- thanks
*Sophia*
This one bites
Very inefficient paths... way more running around and running/flying back and forth than necessary. Not enough connecting quests, not enough efficiency. You're better off just staying in one zone and grinding out every quest, then moving to the next zone as the quests lead you. No time saved with this one.
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Personally haven't played
Personally haven't played this section so I don't know for sure, but from what I understand you get a lot of flight paths in this section that will save you time later. Jame seemed to get pretty good XP rates with it.
that may be a fair point
I get the flight path strategy, but in those cases it would make sense to write a little more explanation... saying "this may feel like a lot of needless running around but you'll need this flight path later." Way too few explanatory notes in this guide.
The reason Jame's is the gold standard is that you're never left guessing, everything is clear and connected so you always trust what you're doing. There's nothing worse than following a guide and getting that sinking feeling like "oh, no... this doesn't feel right." A little more explanation can go a long way.
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You're too negative.
You're too negative.
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While I agree that it could
While I agree that it could certainly be said more politely, especially that first post, there is something to be said for this feedback. This user was confused by the flight path steps - you can take from this useful feedback that those steps might benefit from additional explanation.
To blythe - please try to be more constructive in your criticism in the future. Your second post here was a much better example. Using phrases like "this bites" doesn't help the author at all and could just make them feel bad.
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Hmm, I got pretty good
Hmm, I got pretty good results from this section and I felt that the circuits made sense and were efficient.
Maybe we should add a note about the flight path gathering thing, because it's true that it does slow the guide down quite a bit, but it's necessary.
just a little thing
In your lvl 18-20 section in Redridge Mountains , you need
"5 Great Goretusk Snout". there are a few Great Goretusks
in Westfall that could be looted while there to save a little time. Thought I would mention this as I had 3 when I
moved on to the 15-16 section of the guide, but sold them before I found out I needed them for another quest.
Not that important realy, but It was rather annoying at the time
In General
Not begrudging James or anyone else for that matter but I know I can hit 10/20/30 without the "cooking" quests....after my first two characters, I just skipped quests like Westfall Stew the drop was awful for me and frankly, I can grind what I miss to make the difference. The XP is nice but unless you're training cooking, I feel like inevitably it's not a quest worth actually doing. Anyway, these guides are great, I use them as supplements for the most part, I do things completely out of order but after leveling 8 characters to 30, you kind of know the quickest way that works for you eh.
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For some strange reason the
For some strange reason the "cooking" quests have a bad drop rate. The funny thing is that you may need the Boar Intestines for the Westfall Stew quest. Only 1 Boar on 5 has an intestine, it seems! That's the annoying thing about those kind of quests. I personally hate those as well, and I also think that are useful for those who have cooking as a profession. I never level cooking as a profession, I just train apprentice to "unlock" some future quests, but you may consider this:
You have said that you can still grind when you lack some xp. Instead of grinding on other mobs, just do the cooking quests. Bad xp make those quest a kind of grinding session, with the difference that at the end you have another good xp from completeing the quest and maybe some items to sell to the vendor. I see in this way. After following Jame's guide for a while, I've learnt that optimizing is the keyword for leveling fast. And grinding on some quest-useful mobs is optimized grinding. Sorry for typos by the way
-Benhir
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Well, the mobs you kill for
Well, the mobs you kill for those quests are in the way of other quest objectives, anyway, why not kill them and get extra xp, cash, rep and a quest completed.
Quests count for achievements too.
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Thumbs up!
Very good work! Alliance players have now a good alternativ at Boston's 1-20 guides!
Despite the grinding at the end, I loved all the rest. I think you should add an alternative Darkshore quest circuit, such as the 12-20 Draenei's guide, there is a little circuit in Darkshore to provide extra xp. And with the SW Harbor, travelling has never been so easy!
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I hate the grinding part at
I hate the grinding part at the end aswell, but sadly, the quests I use to do at level 19, Boston does at 20. Grinding here is the best option. If you were to pick up the scraps from Westfall and Loch Modan, it would have gone slower. Or within the times you have accepted the quests in Darkshore, you would have dinged if you grinded. It's a boring part to do, and it shouldn't even be there in the first place. But since Boston chooses to do all of the quests at level 20, you'll just have to adapt to that. Sorry - can't help it.
Quest - grind rate:
90-95% questing - 5-10% grinding.
Hope you enjoy the rest 95% of the guide
Recommendation: Spread the
Recommendation: Spread the grinding out.
Grind on some Harvest Watchers, Defias Knuckledusters, Redridge poachers, etc. to boost the overall XP you've earned coming into the home stretch.
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Bad suggestion. This will
Bad suggestion. This will make players that doesn't really need to do this grinding go through it anyway. Having one grinding part at the end makes it much more optional, and for those who need it.
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this may be an outrageous
this may be an outrageous idea, but i skipped the grinding and went right into boston's guide no problem.. there were a few quests i couldnt pick up for the first hour or so but i got it done fine.
Revered Member
Yes the grinding at the end
Yes the grinding at the end is very little, and it takes less than 1 hour, I'm pretty sure. However, I used this guide with a dwarf warrior and I had to grind just 10% of the experience. Low drop rates combined with rested xp!
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I'm not even sure if
I'm not even sure if grinding will be necessary.
See, last night I tried your 1-12 guide with Jahwo's addon and I was almost level 13 at the end, and I didn't do any extra grinding.
Maybe I was a little unlucky with some quest drops, but still, it just shows that no grinding at all might be necessary for some players. So it's ok.
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Reply to both Jame and
Reply to both Jame and Benhir:
The grinding at the end has a standpoint of using this guide with no rested and getting drops really slow. Most players do level 1-20 over a few days rate, and will get some rested. If you are halfway to level 20 when the grinding part comes, you'll ding within 40 minutes to an hour, depending on how good you are at grinding. But for most players, the grinding will be just a few bars, or nothing at all. So this grinding is put in here in case someone comes to this level in a day or two, have gotten very unlucky on quest drops, and have used no rested.
I'd just like to add that it's not abnormal to have some grinding in questing guides. Some of the best guides out there (even the costly ones), includes grinding. Following Zygor's guide will make you grind alot, following Joana's guide will also make you grind alot, and following Jame's guides will make you grind some
Again: 95% questing, 5% grinding.
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Heehee, that's almost an
Heehee, that's almost an understatement, following Zygor's guide I was grinding way, way too much. I'd often end a level in the guide 20-40% of the next level and be forced to make up the difference. And by often, I mean every single level. And at least when the guides here have us grind they generally give locations that are good and convenient for grinding, it's not like "turn in this quest in Stormwind at level 50, and then grind to level 51. In Stormwind."
Ahem. *gets off her soapbox*
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Yep, sometimes it's better
Yep, sometimes it's better to grind 10 minutes rather than to run around 30 minutes to complete a couple of quests and get less xp in the end.
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Great Still no way I'll
Great
Still no way I'll level an alliance character though ! }:)
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Bang up job, once again.
Bang up job, once again.