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[Hunter] Twink Guide (Level 19)

Zerox's picture

Hunter Twink Guide (Level 19)
Patch Version: 3.0.3

Patch 3.1 bought massive changes to twinking. I'm busy IRL and adapting to these changes but I'll try update this as soon as I can! Peace.

Introduction

Hunters make great twinks in the 10-19 PvP bracket. They are versatile and fun to play, and are one of the most powerful class's at this level. Hunters fill the role of DPS/Support in WSG; they can carry the flag but this is best left to other class's who can do this more efficiently. Hunters have the ability to kite an enemy near endlessly with the use of Concussive Shot and Wing Clip (the latter able to be spamming on multiple enemies to keep your Flag Carrier safe, or to delay the oppositions Flag Carrier support) and to provide tactical information such as enemy location via the use of Eagle Eye and Tracking. Also, Hunters can dish out mean damage while taking hits from multiple enemies making them one of the most sort after class in this bracket.

Version History

v2.0 - Complete reformat, updated for Patch 3.0.3 changes, added Horde information, added Gear Walkthrough
v1.3 - Updated for Patch 2.4.1 changes, added Strategy
v1.2 - Updated for Patch 2.3.0 changes
v1.1 - Added Professions, Pets and Talents
v1.0 - Started Guide

Races

Alliance: Dwarf, Night Elf or Draenei

Stoneform is a great talent which increases the already crazy survivability of twink Hunters but could be outweighed by Shadowmeld, depending on your playstyle. If you like to hide in the shadows and destroy your enemies with burst damage (much like a rogue) then roll a Night Elf. On the other hand, if you like to rush head first into battle and take all the hits (allowing your silly clothies to survive for that extra second Sticking out tongue) then roll a Dwarf. If you like to be different, roll a Draenei!

Horde: Orc, Troll, Tauren or Blood Elf

Orc Hunters benefit from increased pet damage, reduced effect of stuns and increased attack power every 2 minutes making them the survivability counterpart for the Horde while Troll Hunters benefit from increased critical with bows, reduced movement impairing effects and increased attack speed every 3 minutes; like a Night Elf on steroids. Blood Elfs might would be an ideal counter for casting twinks with their AoE silence and great looks Sticking out tongue. Tauren's no longer receive as much of health boost (+5% base instead of +5% stam which is ~30hp max at level 19) but their stun racial is very useful in PvP and they start with a boost to Herbalism which is useful if you plan to level that profession.

Gear

Head: Lucky Fishing Hat/Green Tinted Goggles
Neck: Sentinel's Medallion/Scout's Medallion
Shoulders: Serpent's Shoulders
Back: Sentry Cloak
Chest: Tunic of Westfall/Blackened Defias Armor
Wrists: Forest Leather Bracers
Gloves: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey/Gloves of the Fang
Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
Legs: Scouting Trousers of the Monkey
Feet: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots/Footpads of the Fang
Ring: Seal of Wrynn/Seal of Sylvanas
Ring: Protector's Band/Legionnaire's Band
Trinket: Insignia of the Alliance/Insignia of the Horde
Trinket: Arena Grand Master
Melee: Twisted Chanter's Staff
Ranged: Venomstrike

Gear Walkthrough

The following items are BoE and can be bought off the Auction House:
Sentry Cloak - 100g
Forest Leather Bracers - 5g
Scouting Gloves of the Monkey* - 5g/Gloves of the Fang - 10g
Deviate Scale Belt - 15g
Scouting Trousers of the Monkey* - 10g
Twisted Chanter's Staff - 25g

*If you can find Scouting Gloves of the Monkey with +4 Stamina/+4 Agility use these, otherwise use Gloves of the Fang. Similarly, look for Scouting Trousers of the Monkey with +5 Stamina/+5 Agility.

The following items are crafted and can be obtained any time after you level Engineering:
Green Tinted Goggles - 4xMedium Leather, 2xMoss Agate, 1xFlying Tiger Goggles

The following items are BoP require and instances and quests to obtain:
Serpent's Shoulders - Wailing Caverns
Tunic of Westfall - Deadmines/Blackened Defias Armor - Deadmines
Footpads of the Fang - Wailing Caverns
Seal of Wrynn - Stockades/Seal of Sylvanas - Shadowfang Keep
Venomstrike - Wailing Caverns

The following items are obtainable via PvP and should be obtained after you are decently geared:
Sentinel's Medallion/Scout's Medallion - 65 honor, 20 WSG Marks
Protector's Band/Legionnaire's Band - 65 honor, 20 WSG Marks
Insignia of the Alliance/Insignia of the Horde - 2805 honor

The following items are very difficult to obtain and require much time:
Lucky Fishing Hat
Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots
You will need 225 fishing to catch the rare fish. There are 3 uncommon fish that you can catch in Tastyfish schools during the STV fishing contest from 2pm-4pm server time every Sunday. Tastyfish schools spawn all over the coast. You can fish until 4pm, even after someone wins, and have until 5pm server time to turn in. For the hat, the fish you want is a Keefer's Angelfish. For the boots, the fish you want is a Brownell's Blue Striped Racer.

Arena Grand Master
Starting at 12am server time, every 6 hours there is a chest dropped in the center of the Arena in STV. The Arena is Free For All, so bringing some buddies along would be wise. You need to open the chest and take the 'Arena Master' (100% chance of appearing) and right click this to start the quest 'Arena Grand Master'. Collect 11 for Arena Masters and hand this in for your trinket.

Enchantments

Head: Lesser Arcanum of Voracity
Back: Enchant Cloak - Lesser Agility
Chest: Enchant Chest - Greater Stats
Wrists: Enchant Bracer - Superior Stamina
Gloves: Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility
Legs: Nethercleft Leg Armor/Nethercobra Leg Armor
Feet: Enchant Boots - Minor Speed/Enchant Boots - Boar's Speed/Enchant Boots - Cat's Swiftness
Melee: Enchant 2H Weapon - Agility
Ranged: Accurate Scope

A level 20 or higher character must attach the scope and a level 60 or higher player must attach the leg armor.

Professions

The professions every twink needs are Engineering and First Aid. Mining, Skinning and Herbalism are all viable options as a second primary profession now with the release of Echoes of Doom. You will need fishing if you are aiming to obtain the fishing gear but cooking has limited uses; Rumsy Rum currently has the best food buff a level 19 can obtain and this cancels out anything you cook. Here is a Engineering guide found on WoW-Pro which might assist in leveling: Engineering 1-300 by Dusi.

Talents

Survivability
Endurance Training (5/5)
Improved Concussive Shot (2/2)
Hawk Eye (3/3)

Efficiency
Lethal Shots (5/5)
Improved Concussive Shot (2/2)
Careful Aim (3/3)

Damage
Lethal Shots (5/5)
Mortal Shots (5/5)

Pets

With the release of Echoes of Doom, boars are no longer the best pet in this bracket as Charge is now only trainable at level 20. Replacing the boar are:

Hyenas
Tendon Rip slows the enemy by 50% for 6 seconds, on a 20 second cooldown. This is a huge assist when trying to initiate kiting an enemy and helps deter people trying to harm your Flag Carrier.

Spiders
Web prevents movement for 4 seconds, on a 40 second cooldown. Yes, you read that correctly: after using web, your enemy will not be able to move for 4 seconds. Using this on the enemy Flag Carrier will allow your team to catch up in most situations, potentially turning the tide of the battleground.

Strategy

Your key role in WSG is simple: dish out as much damage as possible (in most cases by kiting). To kite, begin with using your pets slow, followed up bu running at the enemy and doing an instant Raptor Strike followed by a Wing Clip. Run back the other way, firing Arcane Shot whenever possible and keeping Serpent Sting applied. Every time Wing Clip is about to run out, repeat the charge. Save concussive shot for when you need the extra slow, such as when you get interrupted during kiting and need to get the enemy back at range.

When involved with supporting the Flag Carrier you will want to slow any enemies (by spamming Wing Clip) to prevent them from returning their flag. When trying to return your own flag, use your pet ability (Tendon Rip or Web) on their FC and then send your pet onto one of the oppositions healers, thereby slowing their heals.

If your pets health falls low, heal it with Mend Pet. Try to resurrect your pet when not much is going on as it it liable to being interrupted. Lay Immolation Traps at choke points such as doorways and in the tunnels. Use your Multi-Shot wisely as it is the only move you have that hits multiple targets at once, but does add viable damage nonetheless versus a single target. Aspect of the Monkey is best used when targeted our when carrying the flag, otherwise Aspect of the Hawk will provide a decent damage bonus.

Conclusion

Twinking is a long and expensive process, but if done correctly can provide a blast of a time in battlegrounds. If you enjoyed reading this guide, found it helpful, spotted a mistake or have any advice; please leave a comment as I would appreciate feedback.

Special thanks to Jezza (aka. Melador) who helped me heaps through the making of our twinks Smiling.

Felador
Guild: Twinkology
Realm: Ursin
Battlegroup: Shadowburn

Zerox

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Wish this had edit...

My bad, just logged on, Heavy Armor is +24 not +36 Armor so that's 97 Armor for Scouting Trousers of the Monkey

Leg Upgrade

"best enchant you can put on legs is Medium Armor Kit"

Actually as long as the legs are BOE, like the Scouting Trousers of the Monkey, you can get a lvl 20+ to put a Heavy Armor Kit on them before you wear them, I've just done this.

That makes the possible legs:-

Leggings of the Fang (+16 Medium Armor Kit)
95 Armor
+5 Strength
+9 Agility
+4 Stamina

Scouting Trousers of the Monkey (+32 Heavy Armor Kit)
105 Armor
+5 Agility
+5 Stamina

I didn't get the fang legs when I did WC and I got the Scouting on an alt so easy choice for me, I'm a noob of 10 weeks following this guide mainly though so I couldn't say which is better!

I'm not convinced that

I'm not convinced that stacking Int is the best way to go, even with the talent that makes Int = AP. You do 1 dps for every 14 attack power. So for every 14 Int you get 1 more dps. You also get mana regen, but that is not important in BG in my experience. I almost never run low on mana, and if I do survive long enough to run low on mana, then I can just drink.

Most fights last about 15 seconds. I'd much rather have 140 extra health from 14 sta than an extra 15 points of damage dished out during that time. And 14 Agi gives you 14 AP, just like Int, but also increased dodge, and increased crit, so it contributes more DPS than Int, and helps you avoid taking melee damage.

Bottom line, I do take the talent that makes Int = AP, but I still choose Sta and Agi gear over int gear.

I have decided that the Leggings of the Fang are better than the Scouting Trousers of the Monkey though. I give up 1 Sta for 4 additional Agi, and the extra strength helps in melee. Strength can be more useful than you might think. With the Black Defias Armor, I do a ton more melee damage than most Hunters. Charging other hunters and going melee can be very effective in a duel, for example. So I do go the the trouble of getting those Leggings in WC from Lord Cobrahn.

gratitude

i've been playing wow for just over 2 years now. during that time i've tried to learn the many facets of all the classes, professions etc. and just recently got turned on to PVP and BGs. I've always preferred hunter, but do love my pally. This guide has cleared a lot of my confusion and ignorance! Thank you so much!!

ps: this is the best guide anywhere on the web!

Sulfie's picture

As of about a month ago,

As of about a month ago, hunters want as much int. as possible, because there is a talent which increases your AP based on Intel. availible in the 19 bracket and in Marksmen Tree. I think its steady aim >.>



Some people are like slinky's, Good for nothing, but they stil lbring a smile to your face everytime you pus hthem down a flight of stairs.

Some people are like slinky's, Good for nothing, but they stil lbring a smile to your face everytime you pus hthem down a flight of stairs.

Nat Pagle Extreme Anglin' Boots, RIP

Looks like Nat Pagle's boots need to be removed from the equipment list, now that it seems they have been nerf'd to require 35th level.

Novacaine's picture

Updating

Since Felador is busy I have decided to try and update this guide. I hope he/she doesnt mind and I hope I get it correct. If it gets published and anything is wrong or needs to be added please let me know. I expect this to be done by Saturday 6-13-2009.

I did find the the +4 stats

I did find the the +4 stats to chest enchant after a while and was able to get it on black defias armor and wear it with no level requirement. So I can confirm that getting Greater Stats Chest is still good info. It is such a rare enchant, you just have to find an enchanter on your server that has it. I've heard some servers just have only one person on it with the enchant. The one I finally found on my server ignored my adds on trade chat until I started shouting "MY MATS - 100G TIP!!!!!"

Novacaine's picture

Updated Guide?

Anyone care to rewrite this guide? It is not correct because of the Leg and Head enchants...they dont work anymore. Jawdropping!

I have been twinking my

I have been twinking my first toon following this guide. It has been a tremendous help. Level 19 hunters still rule BG, even over rogues. Seems the nerfs mostly made it a little less expensive to twink, without having a significant impact on the complete pwnage that 19 hunters dish out. Victory in WSG at level 19 is determined by which side has the most hunter twinks.

I did encounter a few problems along the way with the listed enchants due to the patch changes, so there are some updates I would like to suggest:

As of patch 3.2:

(1) The best enchant you can put on legs is Medium Armor Kit (which goes for less than a gold on AH on my server, if you can find it at all);

(2) The best enchant you can put on boots is Enchant Boots - Minor Speed (mats are one each of small radiant shard, aquamarine, and lesser nether essence, and hiring an enchanter is a lot cheaper than paying 100 G for the scroll on AH)(I even bought the mats for Boar's Speed and found an enchanter with the enchantment but the item level was too low); and

(3) The best scope you can put on Venomstrike now is standard scope (+2 damage)(available from an engineer).

I have not been able to find Enchant Chest - Greater Stats, so I have, for now, settled for Enchant Chest - Stats (+3 to stats), but I'll keep looking.

Also, I have not yet obtained the Lucky Fishing Hat, so I have not yet investigated the availability of head enchantments. Wish me luck!

As of now I am gone fishin'.

Dwee... I said patch 3.2,

Dwee... I said patch 3.2, which isn't out yet.

I meant patch 3.1.2, and specifically patch 3.1.2.9901.

Skumball's picture

Head enchants now need Level

Head enchants now need Level 50 for them to work, just as the leg patches need Level 60.

Before you could also put them on the goggles made in engineering if you were unlucky and couldn't get the fishing hat, but not any more.

- Skumball

Slow Update !

This is a nice Guide, but thanks to the slow update I have wasted 300g in Nethercleft legs armor, because I have use it in a BoE legs in my main, and it became soulbound, in wowhead it says that when you use Nethercleft armor in BoE legs they dont get soulbound, but mine get, I guess this only happne since 3.1 ...

So to every1 that is following this guide dont make the same I did -.-'

And try to update it, or erase what is expired!

Skumball's picture

3.1 killed twinking pretty

3.1 killed twinking pretty much.

Most of the high level enchants now have a level requirement for them to work as well - which means no more attatching it then mailing or doing it via trade. The enchants will be on the item, but unless you are at least the required level (head enchants 50 or 55+ and leg armor kits it's 60+) then you won't gain the benefits.

- Skumball.

Tauren?

You state that for Horde, "Orc, Troll or Blood Elf" for races that Hunters can be. Tauren can also be hunter and would make a great twink, because of the 5% stamina increase. Smiling

Skumball's picture

Not a 5% Sta boost any

Not a 5% Sta boost any longer, it's now a +5% to base health (before all gear and enchants) and so this would be extremely marginal at low levels, you would gain around 30hp at the very maximum.

But yes, Tauren can be Hunter's. One of their racials that would be good would be War Stomp. A free stun of any kind in PvP can be life-saving.

-Skumball

Careful Aim

Well, I'm been trying this out for a bit, and I truly like Careful Aim, we hunters can now stack stam and intel and still rape face. So I now have 4-4 EAGLE hands, 5-5 EAGLE legs, and I am looking for 5 INTEL bracers instead of the Forest Leather Bracers. I was wondering if you had given this spec and gameplay into your guide. Also, a question, do the Hyena's also have bite, etc, along with the tendon rip? And do the spiders have a poison? I was also wondering where you could get these pets. Thanks!

Pets

I have found Petopia to be a very helpful resource for everything regarding hunter pets.

Kastoli's picture

New Twinking Gear

Since the Bind to Account gear has been released the "Champion's Herod's Shoulder" is the best Shoulders, they CAN be enchanted with +30 Stam +15 Resilience Rating; The "Charmed Ancient Bone Bow" is the best ranged weapon, and can have a "Khorium Scope" attached; as for Melee Weapons since the Tome Fixes the best melee weapons are eigther the "Bloodied Arcanite Reaper" with +25 Agility, or "Venerable Dal'Rends Charge" With +22 Intellect while using the "Furbolg Medicine Pouch" in your off-hand.

~Kastoli

~Kastoli

new twinking gear enchants problem

can u tell with details how and where can we enchant BoA items?

Zerox's picture

Will be updating the guide

Will be updating the guide ASAP, check the italics at the top.

Currently, Champion's Herolds Shoulders > All other shoulder, with no shoulder enchants working anymore at level 19. As for the ranged weapon, IMO Venomstrike > BtA Bow/Gun, and I have seen theory crafting on this to back up my statement, I'll include all of this in the next update.

Trollvink's picture

I can. First of all, their

I can.

First of all, their are a few different sorts of BoA items:

  • Weapons
  • Shoulders
  • Trinkets

Weapons can be enchanted with 'normal' enchants, like Fiery, Crusader, 15+ Agility, Lifestealing, etc. Shoulders can't be enchanted, except with a PvP shoulder enchant, but that's a bug that will be fixed!, so don't get it.

~Trollvink

Incorrect statement

Your guide is useful however there is an incorrect statement. Venomstrike is a must have however you cannot apply an Accurate Scope to it. You can apply a standard scope (+2). In order to apply the Accurate Scope, you must be level 20+ or have a high level toon apply it for you, however, Venomstrike is BoP. If you want to use an Accurate Scope, Id suggest using Lil Timmys Pea Shooter.

Zerox's picture

Bushwacker is correct; it is

Bushwacker is correct; it is possible to have a +3 damage scope on Venomstrike (as can be seen by clicking my armory profile), provided a level 20+ attaches it for you.

I'll include that in the guide, thanks for pointing it out!

technically thats correct, but still wrong

your lvl 19 toon cannot apply an accurate scope to the venomstrike, however the venomstrike's level is above 20, therefore another player lvl 20 or higher can apply an accurate scope to your venomstrike for you, in the will not be traded window.
true story.

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Hey Zerox, glad to see

Hey Zerox, glad to see you're updating your guide Smiling

I suggest adding wowhead links for the items you mention. It would look much better.

Weapon..

You should really use Twisted Chanter's Staff instead of Lorekeeper. The 10 intellect weights up for the 2 less stamina in an arena skirmish.

Zerox's picture

Completely right, been off

Completely right, been off updating this guide while I was playing. I'm currently working on updating this for Echoes of Doom.

Zerox's picture

Thanks, fixing that now

Thanks, I'll add that in now. Never thought about it when I was writing.

-| Zerox

boots

Hey man

All your enchants are cool but boots Jawdropping!
Enchant cats swiftness ( speed+6 agi) is only 35+ items, please change before ppl buy mats to get enchant then get told -_-

Thanks

Admin's note: Fixed spelling. Please do an effort with your spelling next time. Use proper capitalization and "your" instead of "ure" etc. Thanks in advance.

Zerox's picture

Anglin' Boots

The fishing contest boots have an item level of above 35; enjoy putting TBC enchants on a level 19 character.

you forgot to mention something..

you forgot to mention that this was an alliance hunter twink guide. i guess the only change would be seal of wrynn changed to that ring you get in that SPF instance.. seal of sylvanas? don't remember it :S

Zerox's picture

Horde Update

With v2.0 of the guide, Horde Information has been added.

Thanks for pointing this out! Smiling